From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"aik@ozlabs.ru" <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
Cole Robinson <crobinso@redhat.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Alex Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] VFIO-based PCI device assignment for QEMU 1.2
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:42:44 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <502A63E4.3090504@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87393qmvwe.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
On 08/13/2012 10:31 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com> writes:
>
>> On 2012-08-13 15:58, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> On 08/13/2012 04:27 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for pushing this forward! Hopefully this will finally kill off
>>>> qemu-kvm.git for good.
>>>
>>> No, it won't. vfio requires a 3.6 kernel, which we cannot assume anyone
>>> has. We'll need the original device assignment code side-by-side.
>>
>> ...which is on my to-do list for 1.3.
>
> Is there a deprecation plan for the old device assignment code?
Not yet. I would say 2-3 years from the release that has full support
(3.7, since we need more support for INTx in kvm).
This feature is user visible, all the way up to scripts and management
tools. It's not a plug-in replacement (though I tried). Even with a
new kernel, we can't just drop it and point users to vfio.
>
> I'm not really against the idea of requiring a new kernel for new
> features.
>
> From a Fedora/OpenSUSE point of view, would supporting old kernels be a
> requirement to stop shipping qemu-kvm.git over qemu.git?
>
> Since distros ship new kernels and new userspaces, I don't think distros
> would care so I'm not sure who we're trying to support old kernels for.
People do all sort of wierd things. qemu and the kernel are not just
for fedora/opensuse consumers who have someone to take care of the
entire stack for them, when we deprecate an ABI we need to give them
plenty of time to adjust. I think this is even more relevant for device
assignment which is sometimes used with unusual use cases.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-14 14:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-01 5:18 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] VFIO-based PCI device assignment for QEMU 1.2 Alex Williamson
2012-08-01 5:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] vfio: Import vfio kernel header Alex Williamson
2012-08-01 7:13 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-01 18:09 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-02 9:02 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-02 16:37 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-02 16:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-01 5:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] vfio: vfio-pci device assignment driver Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 22:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-14 5:25 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-14 7:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-14 13:51 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-14 15:53 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-14 17:23 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-15 8:56 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-01 5:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] vfio: Enable vfio-pci and mark supported Alex Williamson
2012-08-01 7:15 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-01 18:14 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-01 19:40 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-02 9:03 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-13 22:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-14 5:27 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-14 14:35 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-13 13:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] VFIO-based PCI device assignment for QEMU 1.2 Anthony Liguori
2012-08-13 13:58 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-13 14:04 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-13 19:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-14 7:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 14:42 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-08-14 14:53 ` Cole Robinson
2012-08-14 15:04 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 15:28 ` Cole Robinson
2012-08-13 14:23 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 15:48 ` Andreas Hartmann
2012-08-13 16:14 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 16:36 ` Andreas Hartmann
2012-08-13 16:57 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 18:32 ` Andreas Hartmann
2012-08-13 19:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-13 20:48 ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-13 20:56 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 20:55 ` [Qemu-devel] VFIO: Call for reviewers (was Re: [PATCH 0/3] VFIO-based PCI device assignment for QEMU 1.2) Alex Williamson
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