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From: Cong Meng <mc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	zwanp@cn.ibm.com, linuxram@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v1] blkdrv: Add queue limits parameters for sg block drive
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:04:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5034BCD1.9020603@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50335F78.1030005@redhat.com>



On 08/21/2012 06:14 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 21/08/2012 11:52, Stefan Hajnoczi ha scritto:
>>>>>> Using /sys/dev/block or /sys/dev/char seems easier, and lets you
>>>>>> retrieve the parameters for block devices too.
>>>>>>
>>>> what do you mean with "block devices"?   Using "/dev/sda" instead of
>>>> "/dev/sg0"?
>
> Yes.
>
>>>>>> However, I'm worried of the consequences this has for migration.  You
>>>>>> could have the same physical disk accessed with two different HBAs, with
>>>>>> different limits.  So I don't know if this can really be solved at all.
>>>>>>
>>>> I know little about qemu migration now.  The pending scsi commands will be
>>>> saved and
>>>> transfered to remote machine when starting migration?
>>
>> Passthrough is already a migration blocker if both hosts do not have
>> access to the same LUNs.
>
> Yes, but requiring the exact same hardware may be too much.  I'm trying
> to understand the problem better before committing to a threefold
> spec/qemu/kernel change.
>
> Cong, what is the limit that the host HBA enforces (and what is the
> HBA)?  What commands see a problem?  Is it fixed by using scsi-block
> instead of scsi-generic (if you can use scsi-block at all, i.e. it's not
> a tape or similar device)?
>
I don't see real problem caused by the the queue limits actually. It's a 
bug which Stefan told me.

> With scsi-generic, QEMU uses a bounce buffer for non-I/O commands to a
> SCSI passthrough device, so the only problem in that case should be the
> maximum segment size.  This could change in the future, but max_segments
> and max_sectors should not yet be a problem.

about bounce buffer, do you meat the buffer allocated in 
scsi_send_command() of hw/scsi-generic.c?

Cong.

>
> With scsi-block, QEMU will use read/write on the block device and the
> host kernel will then obey the host HBA's block limits.  QEMU will still
> use a bounce buffer for non-I/O commands to a scsi-block device, but the
> payload is usually small for non-I/O commands.
>
> Paolo
>
>> When both hosts do have access to the same LUNs it's possible to
>> extract the block queue limits (using sysfs) and compare them.
>>
>> Today you can start QEMU with different image files on both hosts.
>> Migration will appear to work but the disk image on the destination
>> host could be junk.  This is a similar case, I don't see a problem
>> except that there should be a safety check (maybe at the libvirt
>> level) to make this safe.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-22 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-21  8:23 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v1] blkdrv: Add queue limits parameters for sg block drive Cong Meng
2012-08-21  8:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v1] virtio-scsi: set per-LUN queue limits for sg devices Cong Meng
2012-08-21  9:56   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-21  8:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v1] blkdrv: Add queue limits parameters for sg block drive Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-21  9:41   ` Cong Meng
2012-08-21  9:52     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-21 10:14       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-22 11:04         ` Cong Meng [this message]
2012-08-22 12:09           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-22 13:13             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-22 14:13               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-23  9:31                 ` Cong Meng
2012-08-23 10:03                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-23 10:08                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-23 10:52                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-23 12:08                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-24  0:45                       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-08-24  7:56                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24 10:43                           ` Hannes Reinecke
2012-08-24  9:05                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-24  9:14                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-21  9:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-21 18:31 ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-22  8:25   ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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