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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Liu Ping Fan <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Liu Ping Fan <qemulist@gmail.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] qdev: fix create in place obj's life cycle problem
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:35:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <503BBDFC.8070806@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k3wkjobd.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

On 08/27/2012 09:24 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >
> > I'm sure we should leave existing code alone wherever possible, focusing
> > on providing alternative versions for those paths that matter. Example:
> > Most timers are fine under BQL. But some sensitive devices (RTC or HPET
> > as clock source) will want their own timers. So the approach is to
> > instantiate a separate, also prioritizeable instance of the timer
> > subsystem for them and be done.
>
> I disagree.  I think we conver the timer subsystem to be lockless and
> then let some devices acquire the BQL during dispatch.

I agree with your disagreement but disagree with the rest.  The timer
subsystem should have its own internal locking that callers will not be
aware of.  Requiring devices to acquire the bql will lead to deadlocks.

Note that fine-grained locking timers will also require reference
counting: you want to call the timer expiration callback after releasing
the timer subsystem lock, so you need to make sure the callback does not
go away.

Linux manages without it (hrtimer_interrupt), so maybe we can too.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-27 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-24  9:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/10] rework on hot unplug Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] qom: add, remove of link property need to ref, unref its target Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] qdev: change iterator callback seq Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] qom: export object_property_is_child, object_property_is_link Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-25  7:43     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-25  8:04   ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] qdev: introduce new interface to remove composite sub-tree Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] qdev: finalize of qbus, qdev will not the right place to free children Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] qom: expose object_property_del_child Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] unplug: using new intf qdev_delete_subtree in acpi_piix_eject_slot Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 10:24   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-25  7:05     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] qdev: rename qdev_unplug to qdev_unplug_req Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] mon: release dev's ref hold by qdev_get_peripheral Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] qdev: fix create in place obj's life cycle problem Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-25  7:42     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-27  7:01       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-27  7:47         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27  8:17           ` liu ping fan
2012-08-27  8:27             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 17:09           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 17:14             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 18:09               ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 18:17                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 18:20                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 18:39                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 18:52                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 19:38                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 20:53                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-28  1:01                             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29 17:13                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-29 17:21                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29 17:27                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-29 17:41                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-03  9:09                                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-28  3:09                           ` liu ping fan
2012-08-28  3:38                             ` liu ping fan
2012-08-28  9:42                               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-28 10:05                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-29 17:23                                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-29 17:30                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29 17:40                                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-29 17:49                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-01  8:31                                         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-01  8:57                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-01  9:30                                             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-30  5:54                                       ` liu ping fan
2012-08-30  7:08                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-30  7:47                                           ` liu ping fan
2012-09-01  8:46                                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-03  7:44                                             ` liu ping fan
2012-09-03  8:52                                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-03 10:06                                                 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-03 10:16                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-04  2:33                                                     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-04  2:34                                                   ` liu ping fan
2012-09-05  8:19                                                     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-05  9:52                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 10:36                                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-05 10:53                                                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 11:11                                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-05 11:25                                                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 12:02                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-05 12:17                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 13:19   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-27 15:02     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 15:14       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-27 15:26         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 16:24           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-27 16:59             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 18:35             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-08-27 19:17               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-27 19:22                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 20:58                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 21:34                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-27 18:27     ` Avi Kivity

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