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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: "Søren Sandmann" <sandmann@cs.au.dk>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, spice-devel@freedesktop.org,
	"Søren Sandmann Pedersen" <ssp@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add new client_present and client capabilities fields to QXLRom
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:00:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <503DAFEF.4040701@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ye8wr0iecpl.fsf@llama11.cs.au.dk>

On 08/29/12 02:58, Søren Sandmann wrote:
> Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> On 08/27/12 19:20, Søren Sandmann Pedersen wrote:
>>> From: Søren Sandmann Pedersen <ssp@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> The client_present field is a byte that is set of non-zero when a
>>> client is connected and to zero when no client is connected.
>>>
>>> The client_capabilities[58] array contains 464 bits that indicate the
>>> capabilities of the client.
>>
>> What is supposed to happen in case multiple clients are connected?
> 
> Is this case supported at all?

There is code for it, although disabled by default and nobody actively
working in it as far I know.  We should at least have a plan how to
handle that situation ...

> If it is, I'd say that the guest should not be aware of it and the bits
> advertise should be interpreted as "these are the capabilities that
> spice-server will marshall on to the clients that are
> connected". Presumably spice-server would then set the bit vector to the
> intersection of all the clients.

Makes sense.

>> How do you handle the race conditions, especially on capability
>> downgrade?  There might be not-yet processed commands in the command
>> queue which the client is unable to handle, or existing surfaces using
>> formats the client doesn't understand ...
> 
> Good question. 
> 
> I don't know of a good way to deal with the situation where the new
> client is unable to handle existing surfaces.

We need a sensible solution here.  If we can't handle capability
downgrade at runtime the capability negotiation between guest and client
doesn't make sense in the first place.

Failing that we can add a a8 switch to qxl.  When enabled qemu asks
spice-server to enable a8, which in turn will raise the display channel
minor version, basically requiring an updated spice client to connect.
With a8 disabled old clients can connect too.

> For commands, would it work for spice-server to just process everything
> in the command ring after changing the capability bits (ie., in possibly
> brief moment before a new client connects)? It seems that would be a
> good thing to do even without capability bits.

spice server could process (aka server-side rendering) all outstanding
commands after updating capability bits and before starting to forward
commands to the new client.  Yes, that should work.

cheers,
  Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-29  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-27 17:20 [Qemu-devel] Add ability to advertise client capabilities to QXL device Søren Sandmann Pedersen
2012-08-27 17:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add new client_present and client capabilities fields to QXLRom Søren Sandmann Pedersen
2012-08-28  6:15   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-29  0:58     ` Søren Sandmann
2012-08-29  6:00       ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2012-08-29 21:05         ` Søren Sandmann
2012-08-29 10:14       ` [Qemu-devel] [Spice-devel] " Alon Levy
2012-08-29 20:51         ` Søren Sandmann
2012-08-30  5:34           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-30 16:03             ` Søren Sandmann
2012-08-31  7:32               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-09-02 21:35                 ` [Qemu-devel] New patches to add capabilities to spice and qxl Søren Sandmann Pedersen
2012-09-02 21:35                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH-v2 spice-protocol 1/2] Add A8 surface capability Søren Sandmann Pedersen
2012-09-02 21:35                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH-v2 spice-protocol 2/2] Add new client_present and client capabilities fields to QXLRom Søren Sandmann Pedersen
2012-09-02 21:35                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH-v2 spice-gtk] Advertise SPICE_DISPLAY_CAP_A8_SURFACE Søren Sandmann Pedersen
2012-09-02 21:35                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH-v2 spice 1/2] Set a8 capability in the QXL device if supported by the client Søren Sandmann Pedersen
2012-09-03  7:34                     ` Alon Levy
2012-09-03 17:33                       ` Søren Sandmann
2012-09-03 17:49                         ` Søren Sandmann
2012-09-03 17:53                           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] client: Advertise A8_SURFACE capability Søren Sandmann
2012-09-03 17:53                             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] Add new set_client_capabilities() interface to QXLInstance Søren Sandmann
2012-09-03 17:53                             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] Process outstanding commands in the ring after changing capability bits Søren Sandmann
2012-09-03 18:31                               ` [Qemu-devel] [Spice-devel] " Alon Levy
2012-09-03 17:53                             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] Set a8 capability in the QXL device if supported by the client Søren Sandmann
2012-09-03 17:53                             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] Bump spice.h version number to 0.11.4 Søren Sandmann
2012-09-02 21:35                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH-v2 spice 2/2] " Søren Sandmann Pedersen
2012-09-02 21:35                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH-v2 qemu] qxl: Add set_client_capabilities() interface to QXLInterface Søren Sandmann Pedersen
2012-09-03 17:36                     ` [Qemu-devel] [Spice-devel] " Søren Sandmann
2012-09-03 17:40                       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] " Søren Sandmann
2012-09-03 18:21                         ` Alon Levy
2012-09-04 10:12                     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH-v2 qemu] " Gerd Hoffmann
2012-09-04 14:14                       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] " Søren Sandmann
2012-09-04 14:14                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Remove #ifdef QXL_COMMAND_FLAG_COMPAT_16BPP Søren Sandmann
2012-09-04 14:46                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] qxl: Add set_client_capabilities() interface to QXLInterface Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-27 17:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add new set_client_capabilities() interface to QXLInstance Søren Sandmann Pedersen
2012-08-27 17:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qxl: Add set_client_capabilities() interface to QXLInterface Søren Sandmann Pedersen
2012-08-28  6:19   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-27 17:20 ` [Qemu-devel] Add ability to advertise client capabilities to QXL device Søren Sandmann Pedersen

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