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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Liu Ping Fan <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] qdev: fix create in place obj's life cycle problem
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:23:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <503E4FF4.7060506@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <503C9275.5040105@siemens.com>

On 08/28/2012 02:42 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>
> Let's not talk about devices or MMIO dispatching. I think the problem is
> way more generic, and we will face it multiple times in QEMU. 

The problem exists outside qemu as well.  It is one of the reasons for
the popularity of garbage collection IMO, and the use of reference
counting when GC is not available.

This pattern is even documented in
Documentation/DocBook/kernel-locking.tmpl:

@@ -104,12 +114,11 @@
 struct object *cache_find(int id)
 {
         struct object *obj;
-        unsigned long flags;

-        spin_lock_irqsave(&amp;cache_lock, flags);
+        rcu_read_lock();
         obj = __cache_find(id);
         if (obj)
                 object_get(obj);
-        spin_unlock_irqrestore(&amp;cache_lock, flags);
+        rcu_read_unlock();
  

Of course that doesn't mean we should use it, but at least it indicates
that it is a standard pattern.  With MemoryRegion the pattern is
changed, since MemoryRegion is a thunk, not the object we're really
dispatching to.

> Besides
> MMIO and PIO dispatching, it will haunt us for file or event handlers,
> any kind of callbacks etc.
>
> Context A                               Context B
> ---------                               ---------
>                                         object = lookup()
> deregister(object)
> modify(object) -> invalid state
> ...                                     use(object)
> modify(object) -> valid state
> register(object)
>
> And with "object" I'm not talking about QOM but any data structure.
>


Context B
---------
rcu_read_lock()
object = lookup()
if (object) {
    ref(object)
}
rcu_read_unlock()

use(object)

unref(object)

(substitute locking scheme to conform to taste and/or dietary
restrictions)   

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-29 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-24  9:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/10] rework on hot unplug Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] qom: add, remove of link property need to ref, unref its target Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] qdev: change iterator callback seq Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] qom: export object_property_is_child, object_property_is_link Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-25  7:43     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-25  8:04   ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] qdev: introduce new interface to remove composite sub-tree Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] qdev: finalize of qbus, qdev will not the right place to free children Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] qom: expose object_property_del_child Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] unplug: using new intf qdev_delete_subtree in acpi_piix_eject_slot Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 10:24   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-25  7:05     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] qdev: rename qdev_unplug to qdev_unplug_req Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] mon: release dev's ref hold by qdev_get_peripheral Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] qdev: fix create in place obj's life cycle problem Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-25  7:42     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-27  7:01       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-27  7:47         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27  8:17           ` liu ping fan
2012-08-27  8:27             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 17:09           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 17:14             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 18:09               ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 18:17                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 18:20                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 18:39                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 18:52                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 19:38                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 20:53                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-28  1:01                             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29 17:13                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-29 17:21                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29 17:27                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-29 17:41                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-03  9:09                                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-28  3:09                           ` liu ping fan
2012-08-28  3:38                             ` liu ping fan
2012-08-28  9:42                               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-28 10:05                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-29 17:23                                 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-08-29 17:30                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29 17:40                                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-29 17:49                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-01  8:31                                         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-01  8:57                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-01  9:30                                             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-30  5:54                                       ` liu ping fan
2012-08-30  7:08                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-30  7:47                                           ` liu ping fan
2012-09-01  8:46                                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-03  7:44                                             ` liu ping fan
2012-09-03  8:52                                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-03 10:06                                                 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-03 10:16                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-04  2:33                                                     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-04  2:34                                                   ` liu ping fan
2012-09-05  8:19                                                     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-05  9:52                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 10:36                                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-05 10:53                                                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 11:11                                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-05 11:25                                                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 12:02                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-05 12:17                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 13:19   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-27 15:02     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 15:14       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-27 15:26         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 16:24           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-27 16:59             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 18:35             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 19:17               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-27 19:22                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 20:58                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 21:34                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-27 18:27     ` Avi Kivity

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