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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Anand Avati <aavati@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Vijay Bellur <vbellur@redhat.com>,
	Amar Tumballi <amarts@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 2/2] block: Support GlusterFS as a QEMU block backend
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:29:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50487B0A.6010908@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50487881.9030207@redhat.com>

Am 06.09.2012 12:18, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
> Il 06/09/2012 12:07, Kevin Wolf ha scritto:
>>> The AIOCB is already invalid at the time the callback is entered, so we
>>> could release it before the call.  However, not all implementation of
>>> AIO are ready for that and I'm not really in the mood for large scale
>>> refactoring...
>>
>> But the way, what I'd really want to see in the end is to get rid of
>> qemu_aio_flush() and replace it by .bdrv_drain() callbacks in each
>> BlockDriver. The way we're doing it today is a layering violation.
> 
> That's quite difficult.  Completion of an I/O operation can trigger
> another I/O operation on another block device, and so on until we go
> back to the first device (think of a hypothetical RAID-5 device).

You always have a tree of BDSes, and children should only ever trigger
completion of I/O operations in their parents. Am I missing anything?

>> Doesn't change anything about this problem, though. So the options that
>> we have are:
>>
>> 1. Delay the callback using a BH. Doing this in each driver is ugly.
>>    But is there actually more than one possible callback in today's
>>    coroutine world? I only see bdrv_co_io_em_complete(), which could
>>    reenter the coroutine from a BH.
> 
> Easy and safe, but it feels a bit like a timebomb.  Also, I'm not
> entirely sure of _why_ the bottom half works. :)

Hm, safe and time bomb is contradictory in my book. :-)

The bottom half work because we're not reentering the qcow2_create
coroutine immediately, so the gluster AIO callback can complete all of
its cleanup work without being interrupted by code that might wait on
this particular request and create a deadlock this way.

>> 2. Delay the callback by just calling it later when the cleanup has
>>    been completed and .io_flush() can return 0. You say that it's hard
>>    to implement for some drivers, except if the AIOCB are leaked until
>>    the end of functions like qcow2_create().
> 
> ... which is what we do in posix-aio-compat.c; nobody screamed so far.

True. Would be easy to fix in posix-aio-compat, though, or can a
callback expect that the AIOCB is still valid?

> Not really hard, it just has to be assessed for each driver separately.
>  We can just do it in gluster and refactor it later.

Okay, so let's keep it as an option for now.

>> 3. Add a delay only later in functions like bdrv_drain_all() that assume
>>    that the request has completed. Are there more of this type? AIOCBs
>>    are leaked until a bdrv_drain_all() call. Does it work with draining
>>    specific BDSes instead of everything?
>>
>> Unless I forgot some important point, it almost looks like option 1 is
>> the easiest and safest.
> 
> I agree with your opinion, but I would feel better if I understood
> better why it works.  (2) can be done easily in each driver (no
> ugliness) and refactored later.

I think option 2 must be done in each driver by design, or do you see
even a theoretical way how to do it generically?

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-06 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-09 13:00 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 0/2] GlusterFS support in QEMU - v6 Bharata B Rao
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 1/2] qemu: Add a config option for GlusterFS as block backend Bharata B Rao
2012-08-09 13:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 2/2] block: Support GlusterFS as a QEMU " Bharata B Rao
2012-08-13 12:50   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-14  4:38     ` Bharata B Rao
2012-08-14  8:29       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-14  9:34         ` Bharata B Rao
2012-08-14  9:58           ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-06  8:29             ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-06 15:40               ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-06 15:44                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-06 15:47                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-09-06 16:04                   ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-09-06 16:06                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-07  3:24                   ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-07  9:19                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-09-07  9:36                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-07  9:57                       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-12  9:22                         ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-12  9:24                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-07 10:00                   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-07 10:03                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-09-07 10:05                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-15  5:21         ` Bharata B Rao
2012-08-15  8:00           ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-15  9:22             ` Bharata B Rao
2012-08-15  8:51         ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-05  7:41   ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-05  9:57     ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-06  7:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-06  9:06         ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-06  9:38           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-06 10:07             ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-06 10:18               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-06 10:29                 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2012-09-06 11:01                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-07 15:06                   ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-07 15:11                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-08 14:22                       ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-05 10:01     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-05 10:43       ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-06  7:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-07  5:46     ` Bharata B Rao
2012-08-13  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 0/2] GlusterFS support in QEMU - v6 Bharata B Rao

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