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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 10/11] vcpu: introduce lockmap
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:41:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <504F316B.1030500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <504F2D97.3000705@redhat.com>

On 09/11/2012 03:24 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 09/11/2012 12:57 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2012-09-11 11:44, liu ping fan wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> On 09/11/2012 10:51 AM, Liu Ping Fan wrote:
>>>>> From: Liu Ping Fan <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> The func call chain can suffer from recursively hold
>>>>> qemu_mutex_lock_iothread. We introduce lockmap to record the
>>>>> lock depth.
>>>>
>>>> What is the root cause?  io handlers initiating I/O?
>>>>
>>> cpu_physical_memory_rw() can be called nested, and when called, it can
>>> be protected by no-lock/device lock/ big-lock.
>>> I think without big lock, io-dispatcher should face the same issue.
>>> As to main-loop, have not carefully consider, but at least, dma-helper
>>> will call cpu_physical_memory_rw() with big-lock.
>> 
>> That is our core problem: inconsistent invocation of existing services
>> /wrt locking. For portio, I was lucky that there is no nesting and I was
>> able to drop the big lock around all (x86) call sites. But MMIO is way
>> more tricky due to DMA nesting.
> 
> Maybe we need to switch to a continuation style.  Instead of expecting
> cpu_physical_memory_rw() to complete synchronously, it becomes an
> asynchronous call and you provide it with a completion.  That means
> devices which use it are forced to drop the lock in between.  Block and
> network clients will be easy to convert since they already use APIs that
> drop the lock (except for accessing the descriptors).
> 
>> We could try to introduce a different version of cpu_physical_memory_rw,
>> cpu_physical_memory_rw_unlocked. But the problem remains that an MMIO
>> request can trigger the very same access in a nested fashion, and we
>> will have to detect this to avoid locking up QEMU (locking up the guest
>> might be OK).
> 
> An async version of c_p_m_rw() will just cause a completion to bounce
> around, consuming cpu but not deadlocking anything.  If we can keep a
> count of the bounces, we might be able to stall it indefinitely or at
> least ratelimit it.
> 

Another option is to require all users of c_p_m_rw() and related to use
a coroutine or thread.  That makes the programming easier (but still
required a revalidation after the dropped lock).

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-11 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-11  7:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 0/10] prepare unplug out of protection of global lock Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 01/11] atomic: introduce atomic operations Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  8:04   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13  6:54     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-13  8:14       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13  8:19         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-13  8:23           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13  8:29             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-13  8:45           ` liu ping fan
2012-09-19 13:16         ` Jamie Lokier
2012-09-19 13:32       ` Jamie Lokier
2012-09-19 14:12         ` Peter Maydell
2012-09-19 15:53           ` Jamie Lokier
2012-09-11  8:15   ` Peter Maydell
2012-09-13  6:53     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 02/11] qom: apply atomic on object's refcount Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 03/11] hotplug: introduce qdev_unplug_complete() to remove device from views Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 04/11] pci: remove pci device from mem view when unplug Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 05/11] memory: introduce ref, unref interface for MemoryRegionOps Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  8:08   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 06/11] memory: make mmio dispatch able to be out of biglock Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  8:25   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  8:47   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 07/11] memory: implement e1000's MemoryRegionOps ref/unref Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  8:37   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 08/11] qom: introduce reclaimer to release obj in async Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  8:32   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  9:32     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-11  9:37       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13  6:54         ` liu ping fan
2012-09-13  8:45           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13  9:59             ` liu ping fan
2012-09-13 10:09               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 09/11] vcpu: make QemuThread as tls to store thread-self info Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 10/11] vcpu: introduce lockmap Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  8:35   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  9:44     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-11  9:54       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 10:04         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-11 11:03           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 11:08             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-11 12:20               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 12:25                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-11 12:30                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 12:35                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-11 12:39                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19  4:25                         ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-09-19  4:32                           ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-09-19  4:40                             ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-09-19  7:55                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 11:46                                 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-09-19 12:12                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 12:17                                     ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-09-19 13:01                                     ` Igor Mitsyanko
2012-09-19 13:03                                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19  7:57                               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-19 13:07                                 ` Igor Mitsyanko
2012-09-11  9:57       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-11 12:24         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 12:41           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-09-11 14:54             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-09-13  6:55               ` liu ping fan
2012-09-13  6:55             ` liu ping fan
2012-09-13  8:19               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-17  2:24                 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-19  8:01                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19  8:36                     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-19  9:05                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-20  7:51                         ` liu ping fan
2012-09-20  9:15                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-21  7:27                             ` liu ping fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 11/11] vcpu: push mmio dispatcher out of big lock Liu Ping Fan

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