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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:53:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50520189.3050707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87har1orbl.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

On 09/13/2012 06:50 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This may not work for really old server oriented guests.
>>> 
>>> S3 requires guest cooperation, period.  But so does qemu-ga.  It's
>>> better than nothing, and we can't get perfection without guest cooperation.
>>
>> qemu-ga requires either an admin/tool to install qemu-ga, or for qemu-ga
>> to be preinstalled by the OS vendor.  S3 requires S3 support to be
>> provided by the host vendor, and for it to be functional.  A
>> significantly easier bar to clear.
> 
> We can easily generate an ISO that includes a pre-built version of
> qemu-ga.

We could easily generate water, but we can't make the horse drink it.

> 
> Plus, there's a whole variety of other features enabled once we can
> assume qemu-ga is available.  It's worth solving that problem.

We can't assume it.  Too many OSes exist, too many guests are already
exist and ain't broken, too many vendors are moving into a locked-down
model.  I agree it's great and we should take advantage of it, but we
can't assume it's there.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-13 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-12 13:54 [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup Anthony Liguori
2012-09-12 14:21 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-12 14:44   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-12 14:50     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-12 15:06     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 15:42       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-12 15:45         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 16:16       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 15:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 18:19   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 10:49     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 13:14       ` Eric Blake
2012-09-13 13:28         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-09-13 14:06           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 14:22             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 14:34               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 14:42                 ` Eric Blake
2012-09-13 15:40                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 15:50                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 15:53                       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-09-13 18:27                         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-16 10:05                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-16 14:37                             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-19 15:34                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 16:37                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-19 16:44                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 16:55                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-19 16:57                                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 14:35               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 14:48                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 15:51                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 15:56                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 16:06                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 18:33                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 18:56                         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 20:06                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 16:08                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 13:47         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 16:27 ` Stefan Weil
2012-09-12 16:45   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 17:30     ` Stefan Weil
2012-09-12 18:13       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 19:45         ` Stefan Weil
2012-09-13 10:50           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 20:06       ` Michael Roth
2012-09-12 17:23 ` Luiz Capitulino
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-09-12 18:03 Clemens Kolbitsch
2012-09-13  6:25 ` Paolo Bonzini

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