From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:08:20 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <505204F4.3040300@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ehm5or07.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
On 09/13/2012 06:56 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>
>> Hmm, true. What about hooking into suspend and doing vmstop during
>> suspend.
>
> Is suspend the only foreseeable way for this problem to happen? I don't
> think it is which is what concerns me about any approach that relies on
> "hooking suspend".
No, SIGSTOP/SIGCONT (can hook SIGCONT), gdb (can't hook but is very
rare), ENOSPACE + wait for more space to be provisioned (already known
to qemu), NFS access qemu core on dead server, severe swapstorms.
> Also, I don't think there is a generic way to "hook suspend".
That is what we have Lennart for.
>>> >> This could happen because of stop, host suspend, live migration to a
>>> >> file, etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> It's much easier for us to call into qemu-ga to do the time correction
>>> >> whenever this event occurs than to try and have libvirt figure out when
>>> >> it's necessary.
>>> > And if guest does not have qemu-ga what is better inject interrupts like
>>> > crazy for next 2 minutes or leave guest with incorrect time?
>>>
>>> Yes, at least that's fixable by the end-user. QEMU consuming 100% CPU
>>> for a prolonged period of time isn't fixable.
>>>
>> You mean yes to "leave guest with incorrect time"? QEMU will still
>> consume 100% of cpu for some time calling qemu_timer callback millions
>> times. timedrift code is not the right level to fix that.
>
> Not if we put a cap on how many interrupts we'll try to catch up.
>
> As I mentioned previously, if we acrue more than X number of missed
> ticks, we should simply declare bankruptcy and reset the counter.
If we know we're missing N ticks, we can simply pass N to the handler.
>
> When that occurs, *if* qemu-ga is present, we should ask qemu-ga to
> reset the guest's clock based on reading the hardware clock via a
> 'guest-resync-time' command.
>
> If it isn't, time will be off. Hopefully the guest is running NTP and
> can correct itself. Otherwise, at least the admin can manually fix the
> time.
There is also the fake S3 (post host resume) that can get the guest to
read its RTC.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-13 16:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-12 13:54 [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup Anthony Liguori
2012-09-12 14:21 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-12 14:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-12 14:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-12 15:06 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 15:42 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-12 15:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 16:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 15:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 18:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 10:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 13:14 ` Eric Blake
2012-09-13 13:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-09-13 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 14:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 14:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 14:42 ` Eric Blake
2012-09-13 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 15:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 15:53 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 18:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-16 10:05 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-16 14:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-19 15:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 16:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-19 16:44 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 16:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-19 16:57 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 14:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 14:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 15:51 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 15:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 16:06 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 18:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 18:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 20:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 16:08 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-09-13 13:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 16:27 ` Stefan Weil
2012-09-12 16:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 17:30 ` Stefan Weil
2012-09-12 18:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 19:45 ` Stefan Weil
2012-09-13 10:50 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 20:06 ` Michael Roth
2012-09-12 17:23 ` Luiz Capitulino
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-09-12 18:03 Clemens Kolbitsch
2012-09-13 6:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
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