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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 10/11] vcpu: introduce lockmap
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:05:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50598ADC.3030506@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnKYQmVGmSk2PfUCw+da_0CNs8+ft_PEiJwXQUBTiCh2pPpJg@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/19/2012 11:36 AM, liu ping fan wrote:
>>
>> It basically means you can't hold contents of device state in local
>> variables.  You need to read everything again from the device.  That
>> includes things like DMA enable bits.
>>
> I think that read everything again from the device can not work.
> Suppose the following scene: If the device's state contains the change
> of a series of internal registers (supposing partA+partB;
> partC+partD), after partA changed, the device's lock is broken.  At
> this point, another access to this device, it will work on partA+partB
> to determine C+D, but since partB is not correctly updated yet. So C+D
> may be decided by broken context and be wrong.

That's the guest's problem.  Note it could have happened even before the
change, since the writes to A/B/C/D are unordered wrt the DMA.

> 
>> (btw: to we respect PCI_COMMAND_MASTER? it seems that we do not.  This
>> is a trivial example of an iommu, we should get that going).
>>
>>> Or for converted device, we can just tag it a
>>> busy flag, that is check&set busy flag at the entry of device's
>>> mmio-dispatch.  So  when re-acquire device's lock, the device's state
>>> is intact.
>>
>> The state can be changed by a parallel access to another register, which
>> is valid.
>>
> Do you mean that the device can be accessed in parallel? But how? we
> use device's lock.

Some DMA is asynchronous already, like networking and IDE DMA.  So we
drop the big lock while doing it.  With the change to drop device locks
around c_p_m_rw(), we have that problem everywhere.

> What my suggestion is:
> lock();
> set_and_test(dev->busy);
> if busy
>   unlock and return;
> changing device registers;
> do other things including calling to c_p_m_rw() //here,lock broken,
> but set_and_test() works
> clear(dev->busy);
> unlock();
> 
> So changing device registers is protected, and unbreakable.

But the changes may be legitimate.  Maybe you're writing to a completely
unrelated register, from a different vcpu, now that write is lost.


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-19  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-11  7:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 0/10] prepare unplug out of protection of global lock Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 01/11] atomic: introduce atomic operations Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  8:04   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13  6:54     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-13  8:14       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13  8:19         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-13  8:23           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13  8:29             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-13  8:45           ` liu ping fan
2012-09-19 13:16         ` Jamie Lokier
2012-09-19 13:32       ` Jamie Lokier
2012-09-19 14:12         ` Peter Maydell
2012-09-19 15:53           ` Jamie Lokier
2012-09-11  8:15   ` Peter Maydell
2012-09-13  6:53     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 02/11] qom: apply atomic on object's refcount Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 03/11] hotplug: introduce qdev_unplug_complete() to remove device from views Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 04/11] pci: remove pci device from mem view when unplug Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 05/11] memory: introduce ref, unref interface for MemoryRegionOps Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  8:08   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 06/11] memory: make mmio dispatch able to be out of biglock Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  8:25   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  8:47   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 07/11] memory: implement e1000's MemoryRegionOps ref/unref Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  8:37   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 08/11] qom: introduce reclaimer to release obj in async Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  8:32   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  9:32     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-11  9:37       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13  6:54         ` liu ping fan
2012-09-13  8:45           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13  9:59             ` liu ping fan
2012-09-13 10:09               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 09/11] vcpu: make QemuThread as tls to store thread-self info Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 10/11] vcpu: introduce lockmap Liu Ping Fan
2012-09-11  8:35   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11  9:44     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-11  9:54       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 10:04         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-11 11:03           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 11:08             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-11 12:20               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 12:25                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-11 12:30                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 12:35                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-11 12:39                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19  4:25                         ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-09-19  4:32                           ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-09-19  4:40                             ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-09-19  7:55                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 11:46                                 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-09-19 12:12                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 12:17                                     ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-09-19 13:01                                     ` Igor Mitsyanko
2012-09-19 13:03                                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19  7:57                               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-19 13:07                                 ` Igor Mitsyanko
2012-09-11  9:57       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-11 12:24         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 12:41           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 14:54             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-09-13  6:55               ` liu ping fan
2012-09-13  6:55             ` liu ping fan
2012-09-13  8:19               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-17  2:24                 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-19  8:01                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19  8:36                     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-19  9:05                       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-09-20  7:51                         ` liu ping fan
2012-09-20  9:15                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-21  7:27                             ` liu ping fan
2012-09-11  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V3 11/11] vcpu: push mmio dispatcher out of big lock Liu Ping Fan

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