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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [big lock] Discussion about the convention of device's DMA each other after breaking down biglock
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:27:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50598FFA.5@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50598F0C.2040301@redhat.com>

On 2012-09-19 11:23, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 09/19/2012 12:19 PM, liu ping fan wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> Il 19/09/2012 11:11, liu ping fan ha scritto:
>>>>>> Why not? devA will drop its local lock, devX will retake the big lock
>>>>>> recursively, devB will take its local lock.  In the end, we have biglock
>>>>>> -> devB.
>>>>>>
>>>> But when adopting local lock, we assume take local lock, then biglock.
>>>
>>> No, because the local lock will be dropped before taking the biglock.
>>> The order must always be coarse->fine.
>>>
>> But if we takes coarse firstly, then the mmio-dispatcher will still
>> contend for the big lock against each other.
> 
> Can you detail the sequence?
> 
>>
>>> I don't know if the front-end (device) lock should come before or after
>>> the back-end (e.g. netdev) lock in the hierarchy, but that's another story.
>>>
>> I think fine->coarse may be the rule, since for some code path, it is
>> not necessary to take coarse lock.
> 
> coarse->fine doesn't mean you have to take the coarse lock.
> 
> Valid:
>   lock(coarse)
>   lock(fine)

This is invalid due to prio inversion issues, independent of potential
deadlocks.

Jan

> 
> Valid:
>   lock(find)
> 
> Valid:
>   lock(coarse)
> 
> Invalid:
>   lock(fine)
>   lock(coarse)
> 
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-19  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-19  3:02 [Qemu-devel] [big lock] Discussion about the convention of device's DMA each other after breaking down biglock liu ping fan
2012-09-19  8:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19  9:00   ` liu ping fan
2012-09-19  9:07     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19  9:11       ` liu ping fan
2012-09-19  9:14         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-19  9:19           ` liu ping fan
2012-09-19  9:23             ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19  9:27               ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2012-09-19  9:28                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-20  7:51               ` liu ping fan
2012-09-20  7:54                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-20  8:09                   ` liu ping fan
2012-09-20  8:27                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-20  9:07                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-21  7:27                   ` liu ping fan
2012-09-21  8:21                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-19  9:21           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19  9:51             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-19 10:06               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 10:19                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-19 10:27                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19  9:34     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-19  9:50       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 10:18         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-24  6:33         ` liu ping fan
2012-09-24  7:44           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24  8:32             ` liu ping fan
2012-09-24  9:42               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27  3:13                 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-27  9:16                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27  9:29                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27  9:34                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27  9:36                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 10:08                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 10:22                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 10:48                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-29  9:20                     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-30  8:13                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-30  8:48                         ` liu ping fan
2012-09-30 11:18                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-30 11:04                         ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-30 11:17                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-30 11:48                             ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-20  8:11       ` liu ping fan

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