From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:34:46 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5059E616.5080500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vcfenieq.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
On 09/16/2012 05:37 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> On 09/13/2012 09:27 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> If there was a better/equivalent solution that didn't depend on qemu-ga,
>>> I'd be all for it. But there isn't AFAICT.
>>
>> Perhaps there is. We fixed the problem for Linux by adding kvmclock and
>> backporting it to distros that users are most likely to use. Windows
>> fixed the problem by adding their own pv clock interface. So we need to
>> implement that, then focus on tick catchup for Windows XP and other
>> guests with no pv interface (*BSD, etc.)
>
> Tick catchup simply isn't going to work. That's the whole point of the thread.
I'll restate. Windows and Linux don't need either qemu-ga or tick
catchup since they have pv time interfaces. FreeBSD and less frequently
used guests are unlikely to get a qemu-ga port, so they need tick
catchup. Is there reason to believe tick catchup won't work on FreeBSD?
>>
>> Those older guests are also less likely to have a qemu-ga port or
>> administrator motivation to install it.
>
> That's a strange assertion to make. FWIW, the issue with hibernation
> was reported to me with a combination of WinXP and Windows 7 guests, in
> this case, it's a totally new deployment. Adding qemu-ga is totally
> reasonable.
Windows 7 doesn't need anything if we implement the pv time interface.
That is less effort than requiring a qemu-ga installation. Windows XP
is an edge case. We can of course support qemu-ga for it, or we can
massage the tick code to work with it, since it's timekeeping is likely
a lot less sophisticated than 7's.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-19 15:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-12 13:54 [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup Anthony Liguori
2012-09-12 14:21 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-12 14:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-12 14:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-12 15:06 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 15:42 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-12 15:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 16:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 15:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 18:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 10:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 13:14 ` Eric Blake
2012-09-13 13:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-09-13 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 14:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 14:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 14:42 ` Eric Blake
2012-09-13 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 15:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 15:53 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 18:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-16 10:05 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-16 14:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-19 15:34 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-09-19 16:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-19 16:44 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 16:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-19 16:57 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 14:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 14:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 15:51 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 15:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 16:06 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 18:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 18:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 20:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 16:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 13:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 16:27 ` Stefan Weil
2012-09-12 16:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 17:30 ` Stefan Weil
2012-09-12 18:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 19:45 ` Stefan Weil
2012-09-13 10:50 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 20:06 ` Michael Roth
2012-09-12 17:23 ` Luiz Capitulino
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-09-12 18:03 Clemens Kolbitsch
2012-09-13 6:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
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