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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: jcody@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/45] block: add support for job pause/resume
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:51:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <506459D3.3010801@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50644D42.6040303@redhat.com>

Am 27.09.2012 14:57, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
> Il 27/09/2012 14:45, Kevin Wolf ha scritto:
>> Am 27.09.2012 14:27, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
>>> Il 27/09/2012 14:18, Kevin Wolf ha scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
>>>> I think there's a problem with terminology at least. What does "paused"
>>>> really mean? Is it that the job has been requested to pause, or that it
>>>> has actually yielded and is inactive?
>>>>
>>>> The commit message seems to use the latter semantics (which I would
>>>> consider the intuitive one),
>>>
>>> You mean this: "Paused jobs cannot be canceled without first resuming
>>> them".  I can add a specification, like "(even if the job actually has
>>> not reached the sleeping point and thus is still running)".
>>
>> I actually meant "pause happens at the next sleeping point", which isn't
>> unspecific at all.
> 
> Hmm, there are two aspects: 1) when things stop running; 2) when the job
> reports itself to be paused.  The commit message describes (1)
> precisely, and doesn't say anything about (2).  That's too specific for
> a commit message, but the header file describes it precisely.

Yes, I understood that, I just found it confusing that both were called
"paused" in different contexts.

> However, in the QMP documentation, the good comment for "bool paused;"
> must be replicated in BlockJobInfo's "paused" member.
> 
>>> From the QMP client's point of view it doesn't really matter, does it?
>>>
>>> - even after a job that writes to disk X has "really" paused, you cannot
>>> read or write disk X.  It's still owned by QEMU, it hasn't been flushed,
>>> it may play games like lazy refcounts.
>>
>> I'm not sure about this one. Consider things like a built-in NBD server.
>> Probably we'll find more cases in the future, where some monitor command
>> might seem to be safe while a job is paused.
> 
> Ok, that's a good point.  I'll add a "busy" member to BlockJobInfo.

Ok, thanks. Together with the comment from the bool paused field this
should make pretty clear what clients would have to check for.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-27 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-26 15:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/45] Block job improvements for 1.3 Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/45] qerror/block: introduce QERR_BLOCK_JOB_NOT_ACTIVE Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/45] blockdev: rename block_stream_cb to a generic block_job_cb Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 11:56   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/45] block: fix documentation of block_job_cancel_sync Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 12:03   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-27 12:08     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 12:13       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/45] block: move job APIs to separate files Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/45] block: add block_job_query Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/45] block: add support for job pause/resume Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 17:31   ` Eric Blake
2012-09-27 12:18   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-27 12:27     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 12:45       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-27 12:57         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 13:51           ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/45] qmp: add block-job-pause and block-job-resume Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 17:45   ` Eric Blake
2012-09-27  9:23     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/45] qemu-iotests: add test for pausing a streaming operation Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/45] block: rename block_job_complete to block_job_completed Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 12:30   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-27 20:31     ` Jeff Cody
2012-09-28 11:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/45] iostatus: rename BlockErrorAction, BlockQMPEventAction Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/45] iostatus: move BlockdevOnError declaration to QAPI Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 17:54   ` Eric Blake
2012-09-27  9:23     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/45] iostatus: change is_read to a bool Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/45] iostatus: reorganize io error code Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/45] block: introduce block job error Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 19:10   ` Eric Blake
2012-09-26 19:27     ` Eric Blake
2012-09-27  9:24     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 13:41   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-27 14:50     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 15/45] stream: add on-error argument Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 20:53   ` Eric Blake
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 16/45] blkdebug: process all set_state rules in the old state Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 17/45] qemu-iotests: map underscore to dash in QMP argument names Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 18/45] qemu-iotests: add tests for streaming error handling Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 19/45] block: add bdrv_query_info Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-15 15:42   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 20/45] block: add bdrv_query_stats Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 21/45] block: add bdrv_open_backing_file Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 18:14   ` Jeff Cody
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 22/45] block: introduce new dirty bitmap functionality Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 23/45] block: export dirty bitmap information in query-block Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-15 16:08   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 24/45] block: add block-job-complete Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 25/45] block: introduce BLOCK_JOB_READY event Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27  0:01   ` Eric Blake
2012-09-27  9:25     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 26/45] mirror: introduce mirror job Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-15 16:57   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-16  6:36     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-16  8:24       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-16  8:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 27/45] qmp: add drive-mirror command Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27  0:14   ` Eric Blake
2012-09-27 19:49   ` Jeff Cody
2012-10-15 17:33   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-16  6:39     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-18 13:13     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 28/45] mirror: implement completion Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-15 17:49   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 29/45] qemu-iotests: add mirroring test case Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27  0:26   ` Eric Blake
2012-10-18 12:43   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-18 12:50     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-18 13:08       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 30/45] iostatus: forward block_job_iostatus_reset to block job Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 31/45] mirror: add support for on-source-error/on-target-error Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-18 13:07   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-18 13:10     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-18 13:56       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-18 14:52         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-19  8:04           ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-19  9:30             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 32/45] qmp: add pull_event function Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 17:17   ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 33/45] qemu-iotests: add testcases for mirroring on-source-error/on-target-error Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 34/45] host-utils: add ffsl Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27  1:14   ` Eric Blake
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 35/45] add hierarchical bitmap data type and test cases Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27  2:53   ` Eric Blake
2012-09-27  9:27     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-24 14:41   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-24 14:50     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 36/45] block: implement dirty bitmap using HBitmap Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 37/45] block: make round_to_clusters public Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 38/45] mirror: perform COW if the cluster size is bigger than the granularity Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 39/45] block: return count of dirty sectors, not chunks Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 40/45] block: allow customizing the granularity of the dirty bitmap Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 41/45] mirror: allow customizing the granularity Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 42/45] mirror: switch mirror_iteration to AIO Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 43/45] mirror: add buf-size argument to drive-mirror Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 44/45] mirror: support more than one in-flight AIO operation Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 45/45] mirror: support arbitrarily-sized iterations Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/45] Block job improvements for 1.3 Kevin Wolf
2012-09-27 14:57   ` Paolo Bonzini

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