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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Scott Moser" <smoser@ubuntu.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Michael Tokarev" <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Cole Robinson" <crobinso@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:26:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <506999ED.6010409@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zk468h3y.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

On 2012-10-01 15:19, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com> writes:
> 
>> On 2012-10-01 11:31, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>
>> It's not just about default configs. We need to validate if the
>> migration formats are truly compatible (qemu-kvm -> QEMU, the other way
>> around definitely not). For the command line switches, we could provide
>> a wrapper script that translates them into upstream format or simply
>> ignores them. That should be harmless to carry upstream.
> 
> qemu-kvm has:
> 
>  -no-kvm
>  -no-kvm-irqchip
>  -no-kvm-pit
>  -no-kvm-pit-reinjection
>  -tdf <- does nothing
> 
> There are replacements for all of the above.  If we need to add them to
> qemu.git, it's not big deal to add them.

But I don't think we should add them to the source code. This can
perfectly be handled my a (disposable) script layer on top of
qemu-system-x86_64 - the namespace (qemu-kvm in most cases) is also free.

> 
>  -drive ...,boot= <- this is ignored
> 
> cpu_set command for CPU hotplug which is known broken in qemu-kvm.

Right, so nothing is lost when migrating to QEMU.

> 
> testdev which is nice but only used for development
> 
> Default nic is rtl8139 vs. e1000.
> 
> Some logic to move change the default VGA ram size to 16mb for pc-1.2
> (QEMU uses 16mb by default now too).

Also nicely manageable in a wrapper.

> 
> I think at this point, none of this matters but I added the various
> distro maintainers to the thread.
> 
> I think it's time for the distros to drop qemu-kvm and just ship
> qemu.git.

+1

Jan

>  Is there anything else that needs to happen to make that
> switch?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anthony Liguori

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-01 13:26 UTC|newest]

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2012-10-01 13:19       ` [Qemu-devel] qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 13:26         ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2012-10-03  9:55           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:06             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03 10:11               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:57             ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-03 13:19               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 13:27                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-04 10:48                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 12:10                   ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 12:27                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 17:21                       ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 17:24                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:31         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 13:36           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:44             ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-01 13:48               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:38         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 13:46           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:04           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 14:34             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: Set default accelerator to "kvm" if the host supports it Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 16:20               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 16:56                 ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-03  9:02                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03 20:01                 ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-03 20:26                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-05  1:15                     ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  2:17                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-05  2:24                         ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  8:15                           ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-08 14:03                           ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-08 14:08                             ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 16:43               ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-01 16:47                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-10-01 19:03                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 19:25                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 20:07                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-02  7:46                   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-10-02  8:15                     ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-03  6:58                     ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-03  9:05                       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:07         ` [Qemu-devel] qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 14:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 15:39         ` Bruce Rogers
2012-10-02  8:14         ` Daniel P. Berrange

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