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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Anand Avati <aavati@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Vijay Bellur <vbellur@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Harsh Bora <harsh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Amar Tumballi <amarts@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Daniel Veillard <veillard@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] O_DIRECT on glusterfs (was Re: [PATCH v9 4/4] block: Support GlusterFS as a QEMU block backend)
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:27:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <506C8381.9090307@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <506C8126.7080305@redhat.com>

Il 03/10/2012 20:17, Anand Avati ha scritto:
> On 10/03/2012 11:17 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 03/10/2012 19:58, Anand Avati ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> I think these 3 lines should be removed.  We're bypassing the host
>>>> buffer cache just by virtue of using a userspace driver, and that's
>>>> what
>>>> cache=none cares about.
>>>
>>> O_DIRECT also has an effect on the behavior of the "client side" (the
>>> part within the qemu) of Gluster stack as well. I presume the intention
>>> of O_DIRECT is to minimize use of memory (whether as host' page cache or
>>> buffered data in user space). To that end it is a good idea to leave
>>> O_DIRECT flag set.
>>>
>>> The behavior of whether gluster bricks need to get the O_DIRECT
>>> propagated or not is a different issue. We are exploring the possibility
>>> of not sending O_DIRECT flag over the wire to mimic NFS behavior. That
>>> would be independent of the qemu block driver setting the open flag.
>>
>> What is the effect of O_DIRECT on the client exactly?
> 
> To avoid caching in the io-cache module, disable read-ahead etc (if
> those translators are loaded). The behavior in write-behind is tunable.
> You could either disable write-behind entirely (which will happen once
> libgfapi supports 0-copy/RDMA) or perform a sliding-window like
> size-limited write-behind (defaults to 1MB).

Thanks for the information.

I think we need to benchmark it and see what is the actual difference in
memory usage vs. performance.  The usual reasons for cache=none (enable
Linux native AIO + allow migration with shared non-coherent storage) do
not apply to gluster.

Paolo

      reply	other threads:[~2012-10-03 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-24  9:10 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 0/4] GlusterFS support in QEMU - v9 Bharata B Rao
2012-09-24  9:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 1/4] aio: Fix qemu_aio_wait() to maintain correct walking_handlers count Bharata B Rao
2012-09-24  9:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 2/4] qemu: URI parsing library Bharata B Rao
2012-09-24 10:27   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2012-09-24 11:11     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27  9:03       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27  9:07         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-02  4:59           ` Daniel Veillard
2012-10-02  6:16             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-24  9:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 3/4] configure: Add a config option for GlusterFS as block backend Bharata B Rao
2012-09-24  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 4/4] block: Support GlusterFS as a QEMU " Bharata B Rao
2012-09-24  9:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-24  9:44     ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-26 10:00   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 10:08     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 16:11     ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-26 16:38       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27  6:41         ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-27  7:19           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27  8:28             ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-27  8:31               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 15:50   ` [Qemu-devel] O_DIRECT on glusterfs (was Re: [PATCH v9 4/4] block: Support GlusterFS as a QEMU block backend) Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 17:58     ` Anand Avati
2012-10-03 18:17       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 18:17         ` Anand Avati
2012-10-03 18:27           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]

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