From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Anand Avati <aavati@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Vijay Bellur <vbellur@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
Harsh Bora <harsh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Amar Tumballi <amarts@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Daniel Veillard <veillard@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] O_DIRECT on glusterfs (was Re: [PATCH v9 4/4] block: Support GlusterFS as a QEMU block backend)
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:27:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <506C8381.9090307@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <506C8126.7080305@redhat.com>
Il 03/10/2012 20:17, Anand Avati ha scritto:
> On 10/03/2012 11:17 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 03/10/2012 19:58, Anand Avati ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> I think these 3 lines should be removed. We're bypassing the host
>>>> buffer cache just by virtue of using a userspace driver, and that's
>>>> what
>>>> cache=none cares about.
>>>
>>> O_DIRECT also has an effect on the behavior of the "client side" (the
>>> part within the qemu) of Gluster stack as well. I presume the intention
>>> of O_DIRECT is to minimize use of memory (whether as host' page cache or
>>> buffered data in user space). To that end it is a good idea to leave
>>> O_DIRECT flag set.
>>>
>>> The behavior of whether gluster bricks need to get the O_DIRECT
>>> propagated or not is a different issue. We are exploring the possibility
>>> of not sending O_DIRECT flag over the wire to mimic NFS behavior. That
>>> would be independent of the qemu block driver setting the open flag.
>>
>> What is the effect of O_DIRECT on the client exactly?
>
> To avoid caching in the io-cache module, disable read-ahead etc (if
> those translators are loaded). The behavior in write-behind is tunable.
> You could either disable write-behind entirely (which will happen once
> libgfapi supports 0-copy/RDMA) or perform a sliding-window like
> size-limited write-behind (defaults to 1MB).
Thanks for the information.
I think we need to benchmark it and see what is the actual difference in
memory usage vs. performance. The usual reasons for cache=none (enable
Linux native AIO + allow migration with shared non-coherent storage) do
not apply to gluster.
Paolo
prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-03 18:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-24 9:10 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 0/4] GlusterFS support in QEMU - v9 Bharata B Rao
2012-09-24 9:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 1/4] aio: Fix qemu_aio_wait() to maintain correct walking_handlers count Bharata B Rao
2012-09-24 9:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 2/4] qemu: URI parsing library Bharata B Rao
2012-09-24 10:27 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2012-09-24 11:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 9:03 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 9:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-02 4:59 ` Daniel Veillard
2012-10-02 6:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-24 9:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 3/4] configure: Add a config option for GlusterFS as block backend Bharata B Rao
2012-09-24 9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 4/4] block: Support GlusterFS as a QEMU " Bharata B Rao
2012-09-24 9:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-24 9:44 ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-26 10:00 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 10:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 16:11 ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-26 16:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 6:41 ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-27 7:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 8:28 ` Bharata B Rao
2012-09-27 8:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 15:50 ` [Qemu-devel] O_DIRECT on glusterfs (was Re: [PATCH v9 4/4] block: Support GlusterFS as a QEMU block backend) Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 17:58 ` Anand Avati
2012-10-03 18:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 18:17 ` Anand Avati
2012-10-03 18:27 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
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