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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Ping Fan Liu <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Block I/O outside the QEMU global mutex was "Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts""
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 15:11:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5074226A.3030907@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5074171A.2030904@redhat.com>

Il 09/10/2012 14:22, Avi Kivity ha scritto:
> On 10/09/2012 02:01 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>
>>> [could we also avoid refcounting by doing the equivalent of
>>> stop_machine() during hotunplug?]
>>
>> That's quite an interesting alternative.
> 
> It's somewhat unattractive in that we know how much stop_machine is
> hated in Linux.  But maybe it makes sense as a transitional path.
> 
> Note it's not sufficient to stop vcpu threads, we also have to stop
> non-vcpu threads that may be issuing address_space_rw() or family.

Yes, we need some list of "guest workers", of which VCPUs are just one
example.

> But no, it's actually impossible.  Hotplug may be triggered from a vcpu
> thread, which clearly it can't be stopped.

Hotplug should always be asynchronous (because that's how hardware
works), so it should always be possible to delegate the actual work to a
non-VCPU thread.  Or not?

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-09 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-25 12:55 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts" Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] build: do not rely on indirect inclusion of qemu-config.h Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] event_notifier: enable it to use pipes Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-08  7:03   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/17] event_notifier: add Win32 implementation Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/17] aio: change qemu_aio_set_fd_handler to return void Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:47   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] aio: provide platform-independent API Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:48   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/17] aio: introduce AioContext, move bottom halves there Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:51   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26  6:30     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] aio: add I/O handlers to the AioContext interface Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/17] aio: add non-blocking variant of aio_wait Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:56   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] aio: prepare for introducing GSource-based dispatch Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:01   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26  6:36     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26  6:48     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-29 11:28   ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-01  6:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] aio: add Win32 implementation Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] aio: make AioContexts GSources Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:06   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26  6:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] aio: add aio_notify Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:07   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] aio: call aio_notify after setting I/O handlers Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:07   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] main-loop: use GSource to poll AIO file descriptors Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:09   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26  6:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] main-loop: use aio_notify for qemu_notify_event Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:10   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] aio: clean up now-unused functions Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:11   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] linux-aio: use event notifiers Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 12:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts" Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 13:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 14:31     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 15:48       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27  7:11         ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-27  7:43           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-08 11:39 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-08 13:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09  9:08     ` [Qemu-devel] Block I/O outside the QEMU global mutex was "Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts"" Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-09  9:26       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 10:36         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 10:52           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 11:08             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 11:55               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 12:01                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 12:18                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-09 12:28                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 12:22                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 13:11                     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-10-09 13:21                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 13:50                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 14:24                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 14:35                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 14:41                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 14:05                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-09 15:02       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 15:06         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 15:37           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 16:26             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 18:26               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10  7:11                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-10 12:25                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10 13:31                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-10 14:44                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-11 12:28         ` Kevin Wolf

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