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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Ping Fan Liu <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Block I/O outside the QEMU global mutex was "Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts""
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:28:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5076BB71.9020500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877gqzn0xc.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

Am 09.10.2012 17:02, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 03:00:04PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>> Another important step would be to add bdrv_drain.  Kevin pointed out to
>>> me that only ->file and ->backing_hd need to be drained.  Well, there
>>> may be other BlockDriverStates for vmdk extents or similar cases
>>> (Benoit's quorum device for example)... these need to be handled the
>>> same way for bdrv_flush, bdrv_reopen, bdrv_drain so perhaps it is useful
>>> to add a common way to get them.
>>>
>>> And you need a lock to the AioContext, too.  Then the block device can
>>> we the AioContext lock in order to synchronize multiple threads working
>>> on the block device.  The lock will effectively block the ioeventfd
>>> thread, so that bdrv_lock+bdrv_drain+...+bdrv_unlock is a replacement
>>> for the current usage of bdrv_drain_all within the QEMU lock.
>>>
>>>> I'm starting to work on these steps and will send RFCs. This series
>>>> looks good to me.
>>>
>>> Thanks!  A lot of the next steps can be done in parallel and more
>>> importantly none of them blocks each other (roughly)... so I'm eager to
>>> look at your stuff! :)
>>
>> Some notes on moving virtio-blk processing out of the QEMU global mutex:
>>
>> 1. Dedicated thread for non-QEMU mutex virtio ioeventfd processing.
>>    The point of this thread is to process without the QEMU global mutex, using
>>    only fine-grained locks.  (In the future this thread can be integrated back
>>    into the QEMU iothread when the global mutex has been eliminated.)
>>
>>    Dedicated thread must hold reference to virtio-blk device so it will
>>    not be destroyed.  Hot unplug requires asking ioeventfd processing
>>    threads to release reference.
>>
>> 2. Versions of virtqueue_pop() and virtqueue_push() that execute outside
>>    global QEMU mutex.  Look at memory API and threaded device dispatch.
>>
>>    The virtio device itself must have a lock so its vring-related state
>>    can be modified safely.
>>
>> Here are the steps that have been mentioned:
>>
>> 1. aio fastpath - for raw-posix and other aio block drivers, can we reduce I/O
>>    request latency by skipping block layer coroutines?  This is can be
>>    prototyped (hacked) easily to scope out how much benefit we get.  It's
>>    completely independent from the global mutex related work.
> 
> We've discussed previously about having an additional layer on top of
> the block API.
> 
> One problem with the block API today is that it doesn't distinguish
> between device access and internal access.  I think this is an
> opportunity to introduce a device-only API.
> 
> In the very short term, I can imagine an aio fastpath that was only
> implemented in terms of the device API.  We could have a slow path that
> acquired the BQL.

FWIW, I think we'll automatically get two APIs with the
BlockDriverState/BlockBackend separation. However, I'm not entirely sure
if it's exactly the thing you're imagining, because BlockBackend (the
"device API") wouldn't only be used by devices, but also by qemu-img/io,
libqblock and probably block jobs, too.

Kevin

      parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-11 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-25 12:55 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts" Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] build: do not rely on indirect inclusion of qemu-config.h Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] event_notifier: enable it to use pipes Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-08  7:03   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/17] event_notifier: add Win32 implementation Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/17] aio: change qemu_aio_set_fd_handler to return void Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:47   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] aio: provide platform-independent API Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:48   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/17] aio: introduce AioContext, move bottom halves there Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:51   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26  6:30     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] aio: add I/O handlers to the AioContext interface Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/17] aio: add non-blocking variant of aio_wait Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:56   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] aio: prepare for introducing GSource-based dispatch Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:01   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26  6:36     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26  6:48     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-29 11:28   ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-01  6:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] aio: add Win32 implementation Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] aio: make AioContexts GSources Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:06   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26  6:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] aio: add aio_notify Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:07   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] aio: call aio_notify after setting I/O handlers Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:07   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] main-loop: use GSource to poll AIO file descriptors Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:09   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26  6:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] main-loop: use aio_notify for qemu_notify_event Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:10   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] aio: clean up now-unused functions Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:11   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] linux-aio: use event notifiers Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 12:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts" Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 13:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 14:31     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 15:48       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27  7:11         ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-27  7:43           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-08 11:39 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-08 13:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09  9:08     ` [Qemu-devel] Block I/O outside the QEMU global mutex was "Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts"" Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-09  9:26       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 10:36         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 10:52           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 11:08             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 11:55               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 12:01                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 12:18                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-09 12:28                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 12:22                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 13:11                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 13:21                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 13:50                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 14:24                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 14:35                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 14:41                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 14:05                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-09 15:02       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 15:06         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 15:37           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 16:26             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 18:26               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10  7:11                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-10 12:25                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10 13:31                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-10 14:44                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-11 12:28         ` Kevin Wolf [this message]

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