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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, juzhang@redhat.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, agraf@suse.de, blauwirbel@gmail.com,
	yamahata@valinux.co.jp, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	kevin@koconnor.net, avi@redhat.com, mkletzan@redhat.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com, afaerber@suse.de,
	armbru@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/26] q35 qemu support
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:37:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <508521F3.3070008@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121022100821.GB24424@redhat.com>

On 10/22/12 12:08, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 07:58:32AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>>   Hi,
>>
>>> Would it make sense to temporarily rename the machine type e.g.
>>> pc-q35-experimental to stress it's not fully supported?
>>
>> I don't think this is needed as piix will continue to be the default.
> 
> Well q35 is not yet 100% ready.

I know.

> The point was to hide it from libvirt.
> libvirt should support pc-q35 not pc-q35-experimental, then
> it will not cause trouble.

You'll not going to hide it that way.  Libvirt will just 'qemu -M ?'
where q35 will show up even if you rename it to be postfixed -experimental.

But as long as 'pc' continues to be the default the causal user will
never ever notice q35 is there, at least not with virt-manager (dunno
about boxes) as there is simply no gui way to pick the machine type.
You'll have to explicitly "virsh edit $guest" to switch it to q35.

So I'm not sure what you are worryed about.  But in any case this needs
discussion with the libvirt folks to make sure it will actually work as
intended.  /me tends to think a experimental bit in machine_info (which
is then printed by 'qemu -M ?' and the QOM-version of that) is more
useful than playing tricks with the name.

cheers,
  Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-22 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-19 20:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/26] q35 qemu support Jason Baron
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 01/26] blockdev: Introduce a default machine blockdev interface field, QEMUMachine->mach_if Jason Baron
2012-10-22 10:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-22 11:26     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-22 18:02       ` Jason Baron
2012-10-24 13:12   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-10-24 19:41     ` Jason Baron
2012-10-26 10:28       ` Markus Armbruster
2012-10-26  9:53   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 02/26] blockdev: Introduce IF_AHCI Jason Baron
2012-10-22 10:48   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-22 11:40     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-22 18:11       ` Jason Baron
2012-10-24 15:50         ` Markus Armbruster
2012-10-24 19:36           ` Jason Baron
2012-10-26 12:56             ` Markus Armbruster
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 04/26] pci: introduce pci_swizzle_map_irq_fn() for standardized interrupt pin swizzle Jason Baron
2012-10-22 10:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 03/26] pci: pci capability must be in PCI space Jason Baron
2012-10-22 10:48   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 06/26] pc: Move ioapic_init() from pc_piix.c to pc.c Jason Baron
2012-10-22 13:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 05/26] pc, pc_piix: split out pc nic initialization Jason Baron
2012-10-22 13:27   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 07/26] pc/piix_pci: factor out smram/pam logic Jason Baron
2012-10-22 11:05   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-29 16:21   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 08/26] pci_ids: add intel 82801BA pci-to-pci bridge id Jason Baron
2012-10-22 10:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 09/26] pci: Add class 0xc05 as 'SMBus' Jason Baron
2012-10-22 10:52   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 10/26] pcie: pass pcie window size to pcie_host_mmcfg_update() Jason Baron
2012-10-22 10:54   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 11/26] pcie: Convert PCIExpressHost to use the QOM Jason Baron
2012-10-22 10:55   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 12/26] ich9: Add acpi support and definitions Jason Baron
2012-10-22 11:07   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-22 11:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-29 16:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 13/26] ich9: Add the lpc chip Jason Baron
2012-10-22 11:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-22 11:27   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-23  4:22     ` Isaku Yamahata
2012-10-29 16:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 15/26] q35: Introduce q35 pc based chipset emulator Jason Baron
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 14/26] ich9: Add smbus Jason Baron
2012-10-22 11:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 16/26] ich9: Add i82801b11 dmi-to-pci bridge Jason Baron
2012-10-22 13:53   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 17/26] Add i21154 bridge chip Jason Baron
2012-10-22 13:26   ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-22 16:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-22 18:18       ` Jason Baron
2012-10-22 18:53       ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-27 12:42       ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-22 14:03   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-22 20:48     ` Jason Baron
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 18/26] q35: Suppress SMM BIOS initialization under KVM Jason Baron
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 20/26] q35: smbus: Remove PCI_STATUS_SIG_SYSTEM_ERROR and PCI_STATUS_DETECTED_PARITY from w1cmask Jason Baron
2012-10-21 12:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 19/26] q35: Fix non-PCI IRQ processing in ich9_lpc_update_apic Jason Baron
2012-10-22 14:04   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 21/26] q35: Add kvmclock support Jason Baron
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 22/26] Add a fallback bios file search, if -L fails Jason Baron
2012-10-21  7:26   ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-21  9:52     ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 23/26] q35: automatically load the q35 dsdt table Jason Baron
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 25/26] q35: fill in usb pci slots with -usb Jason Baron
2012-10-22  5:54   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-24 17:10   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 24/26] q35: add acpi-based pci hotplug Jason Baron
2012-10-22 14:09   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-19 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 26/26] ich9: add support pci assignment Jason Baron
2012-10-20 16:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/26] q35 qemu support Michael Tokarev
2012-10-21 12:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-21 12:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-22  5:58   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-22 10:08     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-22 10:37       ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2012-10-22 13:16         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-22 13:00           ` Eric Blake
2012-10-22 14:23             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-22 14:03               ` Eric Blake
2012-10-22 14:39                 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-22 15:37           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-27  8:12             ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-22 13:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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