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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	gleb@redhat.com,
	Vasilis Liaskovitis <vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com>,
	kevin@koconnor.net, kraxel@redhat.com, anthony@codemonkey.ws,
	imammedo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 06/19] Implement "-dimm" command line option
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:55:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50852622.8000708@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAu8pHuTzZf1JcCQXjutU0xi7U-o04DHVjQpYTc28mduTsZSWA@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/19/2012 07:48 PM, Blue Swirl wrote:
>>>
>>> DIMMs would be allowed to be hotplugged in the generic mem-controller scheme only
>>> (unless it makes sense to allow hotplug in the remaining pmc DRBs and
>>> start using the generic scheme once we run out of emulated DRBs)
>>>
>>
>> 440fx seems a lost cause, so we can go wild and just implement pv dimms.
> 
> Maybe. But what would be a PV DIMM? Do we need any DIMM-like
> granularity at all, instead the guest could be told to use a list of
> RAM regions with arbitrary start and end addresses? 

Guests are likely to support something that has the same constraints as
real hardware.  If we allow non-power-of-two DIMMs, we might find that
guests don't support them well.

> Isn't ballooning
> also related?

It is related in that it is also a memory hotplug technology.  But
ballooning is subtractive and fine-grained where classic hotplug is
additive and coarse grained.  We can use both together, but I don't
think any work is needed at the qemu level.

> 
>>  For q35 I'd like to stay within the spec.
> 
> That may not last forever when machines have terabytes of memory.

At least there's work for chipset implementers.  Or we can do PV-DIMMs
for q35 too.


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-22 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-21 11:17 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 00/19] ACPI memory hotplug Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 01/19][SeaBIOS] Add ACPI_EXTRACT_DEVICE* macros Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 02/19][SeaBIOS] Add SSDT memory device support Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 03/19][SeaBIOS] acpi-dsdt: Implement functions for memory hotplug Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 04/19][SeaBIOS] acpi: generate hotplug memory devices Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 05/19] Implement dimm device abstraction Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-24  6:02   ` Wen Congyang
2012-10-23 12:25   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-24  8:06     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-24 10:15       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-24 17:16         ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-10-25  8:00           ` liu ping fan
2012-10-31 11:15       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-31 12:18         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-31 12:34           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-31 12:34             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 06/19] Implement "-dimm" command line option Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-22 13:46   ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-24 10:42     ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-29 11:13       ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-09 17:04         ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-10-13  8:57           ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-17  9:19             ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-10-17 10:03               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-18  9:27                 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-10-18 12:33                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-19 17:48                     ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-22 10:55                       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-10-22  8:39                     ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 07/19] acpi_piix4: Implement memory device hotplug registers Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-22 13:49   ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 08/19] pc: calculate dimm physical addresses and adjust memory map Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-22 14:15   ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-24 15:27     ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-29 11:27       ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 09/19] pc: Add dimm paravirt SRAT info Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-27  3:55   ` Wen Congyang
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 10/19] fix live-migration when "populated=on" is missing Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 11/19] Implement qmp and hmp commands for notification lists Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 22:03   ` Eric Blake
2012-09-24 14:45     ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-10-23 12:15   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 12/19] Implement "info memory-total" and "query-memory-total" Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 22:36   ` Eric Blake
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 13/19] balloon: update with hotplugged memory Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 14/19][SeaBIOS] Add _OST dimm method Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 15/19] Add _OST dimm support Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 16/19] Update dimm state on reset Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 17/19][SeaBIOS] Implement _PS3 method for memory device Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 18/19] Implement _PS3 for dimm Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 19/19][SeaBIOS] Calculate pcimem_start and pcimem64_start from SRAT entries Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:19   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 19/19] alternative: Introduce paravirt interface QEMU_CFG_PCI_WINDOW Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:20   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 20/19][SeaBIOS] alternative: Use paravirt interface for pci windows Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-24  6:35     ` Wen Congyang
2012-09-24 10:46       ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-24  6:51   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 19/19][SeaBIOS] Calculate pcimem_start and pcimem64_start from SRAT entries Wen Congyang
2012-09-22 14:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 00/19] ACPI memory hotplug Blue Swirl
2012-10-31 10:58 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-31 11:16   ` Avi Kivity
2012-11-01  9:01     ` Vasilis Liaskovitis

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