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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: ronnie sahlberg <ronniesahlberg@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Alexandre DERUMIER <aderumier@odiso.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-img convert with block driver without .bdrv_create (like iscsi)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:58:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50894598.8030401@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN05THSfMxqB2dcCKmzLNmTqUQ=cMnmLfjv_=-+a2vbLQ464FQ@mail.gmail.com>

Il 25/10/2012 15:41, ronnie sahlberg ha scritto:
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Am 25.10.2012 09:52, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
>>> Il 25/10/2012 09:46, Kevin Wolf ha scritto:
>>>>>> 1)add a .bdrv_create in block/iscsi.c ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (like host_device block driver, only open/close the device and check if size if big enough)
>>>> Yes, this is the right way.
>>>
>>> Could it be a default implementation of .bdrv_create (i.e. something
>>> you'd do in bdrv_create if the protocol doesn't have it)?
>>
>> No, there are block drivers that really can't create images. They should
>> keep failing.
> 
> Technically, you can not create new LUNs via the iscsi protocol
> itself, you can only access pre-existing luns
> that have been created by some out-of-band method.
> 
> So basically, with iscsi you can only ever access already preexisting luns.
> 
> In that case I think requiring a .bdrv_create feels wrong. We are not
> creating a new LUN here but just opening an already existing LUN.

The problem is that bdrv_create is overloaded to mean both "create the
backing storage" and "format the image".  Only the latter applies to
iSCSI and, in general, as far as protocols are concerned bdrv_create is
usually a no-op.

However, Kevin said he prefers to have an explicit override of
bdrv_create for iSCSI.  Can you implement that?  (I'll then do the same
for NBD).

Paolo

> 
> What about changing bdrv_create() so that IF there is no .bdrv_create
> method, then assume it might be a pre-existing file in which case we
> fallback to use .bdrv_open instead.
> 
> regards
> ronnie sahlberg
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-25 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <37f26e36-0239-4598-bfc3-477e7dcf3787@mailpro>
2012-10-25  7:25 ` [Qemu-devel] qemu-img convert with block driver without .bdrv_create (like iscsi) Alexandre DERUMIER
2012-10-25  7:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-25  7:46   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-25  7:52     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-25  8:02       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-25 13:41         ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-10-25 13:54           ` Kevin Wolf
2012-10-25 13:58           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-10-25 14:00             ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-10-26  5:37               ` Alexandre DERUMIER

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