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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 1/8] atomic: introduce atomic operations
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:04:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50A8B290.7010105@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnKYQ=S=y2_-Z=K9M1uV1MjgKO48q8HAJnAOsdU4gNZjym7iA@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/15/2012 09:47 AM, liu ping fan wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Il 14/11/2012 10:38, liu ping fan ha scritto:
>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Il 05/11/2012 06:38, Liu Ping Fan ha scritto:
>>>>>>> From: Liu Ping Fan <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If out of global lock, we will be challenged by SMP in low level,
>>>>>>> so need atomic ops.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This file is a wrapper of GCC atomic builtin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still object to this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know it enforces type-safety, but it is incomplete.  It doesn't
>>>>>
>>>>> Although it is incomplete, but the rest cases are rarely used.  Linux
>>>>> faces such issue, and the "int" version is enough, so I think we can
>>>>> borrow experience from there.
>>>>
>>>> One of the two places that use __sync_* require 64-bit accesses.  My
>>> Yes, these two places are not easy to fix.
>>
>> Which shows that Linux's atomic_t is not suited for QEMU, in my opinion.
>>
>>>> RCU prototype required pointer-sized access, which you cannot make type-
>>> But I think that your RCU prototype should rely on atomic of CPU, not
>>> gcc‘s atomic.
>>
>> What's the difference?  gcc's atomic produces the same instructions as
>> hand-written assembly (or should).
>>
> Probably I made a mistake here, in vhost,  log =
> __sync_fetch_and_and(from, 0)  is used to fetch 64bits atomically in
> the case  32bits qemu running on 64bits linux.  Right?   But how can
> we read 32bits twice in atomic?  Seem that no instruction like "_lock
> xchg" for this ops.  So I guess _sync_fetch_and_and() based on
> something like spinlock.
> 
> And I think the broken issue is caused by vhost thread updates log,
> while qemu read out it not atomicly, Right?

For the log, 32-bit sync_fetch_and_and() is sufficient.  We only need to
ensure no bits are lost, we don't need 64-bit atomicity.



-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-18 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-05  5:38 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 0/8] push mmio dispatch out of big lock Liu Ping Fan
2012-11-05  5:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 1/8] atomic: introduce atomic operations Liu Ping Fan
2012-11-12  9:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-13  6:48     ` liu ping fan
2012-11-13 10:11       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-14  9:38         ` liu ping fan
2012-11-14  9:47           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-15  7:47             ` liu ping fan
2012-11-15 11:24               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-16  0:03               ` Richard Henderson
2012-11-21  5:58                 ` liu ping fan
2012-11-18 10:04               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-11-21  5:57                 ` liu ping fan
2012-11-13 10:11       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-05  5:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 2/8] qom: apply atomic on object's refcount Liu Ping Fan
2012-11-05  5:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 3/8] hotplug: introduce qdev_unplug_complete() to remove device from views Liu Ping Fan
2012-11-12  9:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-13  6:12     ` liu ping fan
2012-11-05  5:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 4/8] pci: remove pci device from mem view when unplug Liu Ping Fan
2012-11-05  5:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 5/8] memory: introduce local lock for address space Liu Ping Fan
2012-11-05  5:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 6/8] memory: make mmio dispatch able to be out of biglock Liu Ping Fan
2012-11-05  6:45   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-11-05  5:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 7/8] memory: introduce tls context to trace nested mmio request issue Liu Ping Fan
2012-11-05  6:57   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-11-05  5:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 8/8] vcpu: push mmio dispatcher out of big lock Liu Ping Fan
2012-11-05  7:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 0/8] push mmio dispatch " Jan Kiszka
2012-11-09  6:23   ` liu ping fan
2012-11-09  8:15     ` Jan Kiszka

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