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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	somlo@cmu.edu, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, anthony@codemonkey.ws
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PULL for-1.3 0/3] seabios: q35 update
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:37:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50BE18CF.7070704@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121204143725.GA11368@redhat.com>

  Hi,

>>> '-machine q35,diskmode=ahci,ide,raid'? 
>>
>> I'm wondering whenever we want to deal with that at all?
>>
>> "If your guest is too old to handle ahci natively, just stick to piix."
>> is a sensible policy IMHO.
>>
> 
> There was some discussion of trying to make q35 the default for 1.4, in
> which case it may be important to support older OS's such as WinXP.
> 
> Anthony, do you have any opinion on this?

The fundamental issue is that you have either good compatibility (makes
old guests happy) or good performance (makes modern guests happy) by
default.  Picking a default which makes everybody happy is impossible.

That problem doesn't change no matter whenever the choice is piix vs.
q35 or q35+ide vs. q35+ahci.

management apps (using libosinfo) can tackle this in a sensible manner
by picking virtual hardware depending on the guest capabilities.  So I
wouldn't worry too much on qemu level.

>>> 2) HPET ACPI error
>>>
>>> This line: 'IRQNoFlags () {2, 8}' in the HPET acpi table is causing the
>>> folloing ACPI message (removing it makes it go away):
>>
>> Hmm.  That was added to make macos x happy and is also present on real
>> hardware, so I'm wondering what is going on here.
>>
> 
> I also noticed that on Windows 7, the 'IRQNoFlags' line above makes the RTC
> clock complain that it does not have resources available. While removing the
> above line, removes that error.

Hmm.  The IRQNoFlags for the RTC isn't new though, but I can see that
with win7 on piix too.

cheers,
  Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-04 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-03 10:11 [Qemu-devel] [PULL for-1.3 0/3] seabios: q35 update Gerd Hoffmann
2012-12-03 10:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] seabios: update to 3d11108f45818d75140530a184c05680f1be51ad Gerd Hoffmann
2012-12-03 10:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] configure: also symlink *.aml files Gerd Hoffmann
2012-12-03 10:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] acpi: autoload dsdt Gerd Hoffmann
2012-12-03 18:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL for-1.3 0/3] seabios: q35 update Jason Baron
2012-12-04  7:40   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-12-04  7:46     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-12-04 14:37     ` Jason Baron
2012-12-04 15:37       ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2012-12-04 15:57         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-12-04 14:42     ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2012-12-04 15:11       ` jbaron
2012-12-04 15:39         ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2012-12-04 16:56           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-12-04 17:14             ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2012-12-05  6:50               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-12-05 14:49                 ` Gabriel L. Somlo

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