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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2] virtio: verify that all outstanding buffers are flushed
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:52:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50C8A855.4050607@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121212152508.GB16750@redhat.com>

Il 12/12/2012 16:25, Michael S. Tsirkin ha scritto:
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:01:27PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 12/12/2012 15:47, Michael S. Tsirkin ha scritto:
>>>> Ok, so we need some API for virtio-{blk,scsi} to communicate back the
>>>> indexes of in-flight requests to virtio.  The indexes are known from the
>>>> VirtQueueElement, so that's fine.
>>>>
>>>> Even better would be a virtio_save_request/virtio_load_request API...
>>>
>>> So you are saying this is a bug then? Great.
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by "it will never put the missing heads
>> in the used ring".  The serialized requests are put in the used rings
>> when they are completed and virtio-{blk,scsi} calls virtqueue_push.  Is
>> the problem if you have a vring that looks like this:
>>
>>     A A U A U U A A
>>
>> ?  Which heads are leaked?  {0,1}, {2} or {6,7}?  Or a combination thereof?
> 
> I don't know what A A U A U U A A means.

Right, not very clear.... It means that descriptor 2 and 4 and 5 are
free, while the others are in-flight.

> To make it work, complete all requests when vm is stopped.

That's not a choice, sorry.

>>> This is exactly what the assert above is out there to catch.
>>> And you really can't fix it without breaking migration compatibility.
>>
>> Why not?  The index in the vring is in the migration data.
> 
> index is not enough if requests are outstanding.

Sorry, I meant the descriptor index.

> Pls check the example in the log of the patch.

I'm likewise not sure what you meant by

   A 1
   A 2
   U 2
   A 2
   U 2
   A 2
   U 2
   A 2     <---
   U 2

If I understand it, before the point marked with the arrow, the avail
ring is

   1 2 2 2

   vring_avail_idx(vq) == 3
   last_avail_idx == 3

After, it is

   2 2 2 2
   vring_avail_idx(vq) == 4
   last_avail_idx == 3

What's wrong with that?

You wrote "the only way to know head 1 is outstanding is because backend
has stored this info somewhere".  But the backend _is_ tracking it (by
serializing and then restoring the VirtQueueElement) and no leak happens
because virtqueue_fill/flush will put the head on the used ring sooner
or later.

>>> As step 1, I think we should just complete all outstanding
>>> requests when VM stops.
>>>
>>> Yes it means you can't do the retry hack after migration
>>> but this is hardly common scenario.
>>
>> I disagree...
> 
> Disagree with what? You are saying it's common?

It's not common, but you cannot block migration because you have an I/O
error.  Solving the error may involve migrating the guests away from
that host.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-12 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-12 10:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2] virtio: verify that all outstanding buffers are flushed Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-12 13:50 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-12-12 14:01   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-12 14:30     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-12 14:36       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-12 14:47         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-12 15:01           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-12 15:25             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-12 15:52               ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-12-12 16:37                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-12 16:51                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-12 17:14                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-12 17:39                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-12 19:23                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-12 21:00                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-12 21:19                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-12 21:33                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-12-12 21:51                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-14  1:06                                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-12-14  7:51                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-16 20:36                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-12-13  7:39                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-13 10:48                   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-12-16 16:14                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-12 14:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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