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From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: Alex Horn <alex.horn@cs.ox.ac.uk>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] tests: Add tmp105 unit test
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:44:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50CCB71B.4020205@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN1LFUNPvq2TSmatL+KTEkmfov0fg3kN0H4FLM+qpuhZwEwp3w@mail.gmail.com>

Am 12.12.2012 15:44, schrieb Alex Horn:
> Thanks so much for taking the initiative on creating functional tests
> for the TMP105 hardware model. I am exciting to see these changes and
> I am wondering if your QTests could be complemented with the following
> standalone unit tests:
> 
>   https://github.com/ahorn/benchmarks/blob/965e571d92e677e8e64ad5faa0107f5dbd451981/qemu-hw/tmp105/tmp105-test.c

Honestly I consider that test a gross hack for three reasons:
* You ignore any global state that devices may rely on, i.e. some
operations like hotplug may succeed that would normally fail.
* You completely bypass QOM/qdev infrastructure by instantiating random
structs on the stack. This may lead to devices not properly being
initialized.
* You ignore any endianness swizzling our Memory API takes care of. (Did
you verify your tests on a Big Endian host?)

All this would be quite a lot of work to duplicate into a testing
environment and it occasionally changes, which is why we are reusing the
"original" infrastructure for testing in a special "qtest" mode.

What would be appreciated though is if you could add some of your tests
to our test infrastructure as a follow-up to my patches - assuming my
proposal gets adopted. For testing the alarm, Paolo's IRQs interception
API may be useful (in rtc-test IIRC).

> Their purpose is similar to yours except that unit tests focus on
> checking the internal state of a hardware model without requiring a
> bus implementation or a socket connection for the QTest client-server
> infrastructure. That is, unit tests do not seek to replace QTests but
> strengthen them (see also below).

I am the wrong person to argue about this, Anthony has been setting up
this test infrastructure. Unlike C++ with its friend classes we can't
test any static C functions anyway, so the interface for testing the way
you propose is very limited.

What I have been demonstrating is that it is too trivial to do it the
expected qtest way (one evening a prototype for bus+device plus one
evening a bus abstraction) to try working around it. :)

Regards,
Andreas

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-15 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-12  6:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] tmp105: qtest support Andreas Färber
2012-12-12  6:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] omap_i2c: Clear SBD bit in STAT register on DATA read Andreas Färber
2012-12-13 14:45   ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-13 17:04     ` Andreas Färber
2012-12-13 17:10       ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-12  6:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] tests: Add tmp105 unit test Andreas Färber
2012-12-12 14:44   ` Alex Horn
2012-12-15 17:44     ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2012-12-12 19:43   ` Blue Swirl
2012-12-12 23:17     ` Andreas Färber

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