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From: "KONRAD Frédéric" <fred.konrad@greensocs.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	aliguori@us.ibm.com, e.voevodin@samsung.com,
	mark.burton@greensocs.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	stefanha@redhat.com, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com, afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 0/6] Virtio refactoring.
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 10:56:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50EBED66.6080606@greensocs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130107195843.GC8679@redhat.com>

On 07/01/2013 20:58, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:30:20PM +0100, KONRAD Frédéric wrote:
>> On 18/12/2012 12:01, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:33:37AM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>>> On 17 December 2012 15:45, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> Is the point to allow virtio-mmio?  Why can't virtio-mmio be just
>>>>> another bus, like a pci bus, and another binding, like the virtio-pci
>>>>> binding?
>>>> (a) the current code is really not very nice because it's not
>>>> actually a proper set of QOM/qdev devices
>>>> (b) unlike PCI, you can't create sysbus devices on the
>>>> command line, because they don't correspond to a user
>>>> pluggable bit of hardware. We don't want users to have to know
>>>> an address and IRQ number for each virtio-mmio device (especially
>>>> since these are board specific); instead the board can create
>>>> and wire up transport devices wherever is suitable, and the
>>>> user just creates the backend (which is plugged into the virtio bus).
>>>>
>>>> -- PMM
>>> This is what I am saying: create your own bus and put
>>> your devices there. Allocate resources when you init
>>> a device.
>>>
>>> Instead you seem to want to expose a virtio device as two devices to
>>> user - if true this is not reasonable.
>>>
>> The modifications will be transparent to the user, as we will keep
>> virtio-x-pci devices.
> Then what's the point of all this?
>
> -device virtio-pci,id=transport1 -device virtio-net,bus=transport1
>
> or
>
> -device virtio-mmio,id=transport1 -device virtio-net,bus=transport1
>
> Is simply an insane way to create a network device.
>
To recap :

The idea is to have a virtio-bus between the transport device
(like pci, mmio,... ).

Then we can have a platform with several virtio-mmio and then virtio-bus 
slot.

At the end user can add a virtio-device in the command line with -device
parameter without recompiling the platform. That is not possible with just
creating the virtio-x-mmio devices. The bus= option can be used to
select the bus slot, but I'm not sure it is usefull.

The series keep the virtio-x-pci devices :
eg : step 11/61 for virtio-blk
So -device virtio-blk-pci or -device virtio-blk-s390 works as before.

Of course -device virtio-pci,id=transport1 -device 
virtio-net,bus=transport1 is
possible but why using this command line when we could simply do :
-device virtio-net-pci ?

Fred

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-08  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-07 13:32 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 0/6] Virtio refactoring fred.konrad
2012-12-07 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 1/6] qdev : add a maximum device allowed field for the bus fred.konrad
2012-12-07 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 2/6] virtio-bus : Introduce virtio-bus fred.konrad
2012-12-07 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 3/6] virtio-pci-bus : Introduce virtio-pci-bus fred.konrad
2012-12-07 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 4/6] virtio-pci : Refactor virtio-pci device fred.konrad
2012-12-07 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 5/6] virtio-device : Refactor virtio-device fred.konrad
2012-12-07 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 6/6] virtio-blk : Add the virtio-blk device fred.konrad
2012-12-07 14:53   ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-17 15:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 0/6] Virtio refactoring Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-17 17:13   ` KONRAD Frédéric
2012-12-17 20:46     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 10:33   ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-18 11:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 11:26       ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-18 11:50         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-18 12:06           ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-18 13:10             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 14:00               ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-18 14:36                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-18 14:56                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-18 14:59                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-18 15:42                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 15:14                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 14:51                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 11:30       ` KONRAD Frédéric
2012-12-18 13:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 20:12           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-07 20:59             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 21:24               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-07 21:37                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 21:51                   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-07 22:15                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 22:50                       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-08  6:46                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 22:16                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 19:58         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 20:02           ` Peter Maydell
2013-01-07 20:49             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 21:32               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-07 20:14           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-08  9:56           ` KONRAD Frédéric [this message]
2013-01-08 14:02             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-08 14:27               ` KONRAD Frédéric

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