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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Liu Yuan <namei.unix@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	MORITA Kazutaka <morita.kazutaka@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] sheepdog: implement direct write semantics
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:19:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50EC00CE.80205@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50EBFE20.9010100@gmail.com>

Am 08.01.2013 12:08, schrieb Liu Yuan:
> On 01/08/2013 06:51 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> Am 08.01.2013 11:39, schrieb Liu Yuan:
>>> This also explains why
>>> I saw a regression about write performance: Old QEMU can issue multiple
>>> write requests in one go, but now the requests are sent one by one (even
>>> with cache=writeback set), which makes Sheepdog write performance drop a
>>> lot. Is it possible to issue multiple requests in one go as old QEMU does?
>>
>> Huh? We didn't change anything to that respect, or at least not that I'm
>> aware of. qemu always only had single-request bdrv_co_writev, so if
>> anything that batching must have happened inside Sheepdog code? Do you
>> know what makes it not batch requests any more?
>>
> 
> QEMU v1.1.x works well with batched write requests. Sheepdog block
> driver doesn't do batching trick as far as I know, just send request as
> it is feed. There isn't noticeable changes between v1.1.x and current
> master regard to Sheepdog.c.
> 
> To detail the different behavior, from Sheepdog daemon which receives
> the requests from QEMU:
>  old: can receive multiple many requests at the virtually the same time
> and handle them concurrently
>  now: only receive one request, handle it, reply and get another.
> 
> So I think the problem is, current QEMU will wait for write response
> before sending another request.

I can't see a reason why it would do that. Can you bisect this?

>>> It seems it is hard to restore into old semantics of cache flags due to
>>> new design of QEMU block layer. So will you accept that adding a 'flags'
>>> into BlockDriverState which carry the 'cache flags' from user to keep
>>> backward compatibility?
>>
>> No, going back to the old behaviour would break guest-toggled WCE.
>>
> 
> Guest-toggled WCE only works with IDE and seems that virtio-blk doesn't
> support it, no? And I think there are huge virtio-blk users.

It works with virtio-blk and SCSI as well.

> I didn't meant to break WCE. What I meant is to allow backward
> compatibility. For e.g, Sheepdog driver can make use of this dedicated
> cache flags to implement its own cache control and doesn't affect other
> drivers at all.

How would you do it? With a WCE that changes during runtime the idea of
a flag that is passed to bdrv_open() and stays valid as long as the
BlockDriverState exists doesn't match reality any more.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-08 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-19 18:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] sheepdog: implement direct write semantics Liu Yuan
2012-12-25  7:47 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2012-12-25  8:26   ` Liu Yuan
2012-12-25  8:45   ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-03 13:43     ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-04 16:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-05  4:40         ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-05  5:29           ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-05  7:56             ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-07 12:31               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-08  5:28                 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-07 13:23               ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08  5:42                 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08  9:40                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-08  9:45                     ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 10:00                       ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08 10:39                         ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 10:51                           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08 11:08                             ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 11:19                               ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2013-01-08 11:35                                 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 12:12                                   ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08 13:18                                     ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 13:23                                       ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 10:25                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 10:36                                         ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 10:40                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 10:46                                             ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 10:58                                               ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 11:10                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 12:07                                               ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 12:10                                                 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 12:16                                                 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 12:42                                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-09 13:04                                                   ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 15:10                                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10  5:38                                                       ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-11  7:52                                                         ` MORITA Kazutaka
2013-01-11  8:07                                                           ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-11  9:00                                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-11  9:04                                                               ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-11  9:34                                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-11  9:38                                                                   ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-11  9:40                                                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-11  9:32                                                           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-10 15:25                                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2013-01-10 15:31                                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 17:22                                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2013-01-09 11:10                                           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-09 10:23                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 15:12                             ` Jamie Lokier
2013-01-10 15:21                               ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-10  8:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] " Liu Yuan
2013-01-10  9:04   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-11  7:35   ` MORITA Kazutaka
2013-01-11  9:23     ` Kevin Wolf

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