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From: Liu Yuan <namei.unix@gmail.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	MORITA Kazutaka <morita.kazutaka@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] sheepdog: implement direct write semantics
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 19:35:47 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50EC0493.8030701@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50EC00CE.80205@redhat.com>

On 01/08/2013 07:19 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> I can't see a reason why it would do that. Can you bisect this?
> 

Sure, bisect it is on my schedule, but I can't promise a deadline.

>>>> >>> It seems it is hard to restore into old semantics of cache flags due to
>>>> >>> new design of QEMU block layer. So will you accept that adding a 'flags'
>>>> >>> into BlockDriverState which carry the 'cache flags' from user to keep
>>>> >>> backward compatibility?
>>> >>
>>> >> No, going back to the old behaviour would break guest-toggled WCE.
>>> >>
>> > 
>> > Guest-toggled WCE only works with IDE and seems that virtio-blk doesn't
>> > support it, no? And I think there are huge virtio-blk users.
> It works with virtio-blk and SCSI as well.
> 

Okay, I see the code indeed support WCE but it requires Guest kernel to
support it. For the kernel doesn't support it, there is no way to
disable write cache, no?

>> > I didn't meant to break WCE. What I meant is to allow backward
>> > compatibility. For e.g, Sheepdog driver can make use of this dedicated
>> > cache flags to implement its own cache control and doesn't affect other
>> > drivers at all.
> How would you do it? With a WCE that changes during runtime the idea of
> a flag that is passed to bdrv_open() and stays valid as long as the
> BlockDriverState exists doesn't match reality any more.

I am not sure if I get it right. What I meant is allow Sheepdog to
control cache on the 'cache flags' at startup and ignore WCE on the run
time.

So you mean, if I choose witeback cache at startup, and then Guest
disable it via WCE, then block layer will never send flush request down
to Sheepdog driver?

Thanks,
Yuan

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-08 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-19 18:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] sheepdog: implement direct write semantics Liu Yuan
2012-12-25  7:47 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2012-12-25  8:26   ` Liu Yuan
2012-12-25  8:45   ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-03 13:43     ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-04 16:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-05  4:40         ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-05  5:29           ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-05  7:56             ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-07 12:31               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-08  5:28                 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-07 13:23               ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08  5:42                 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08  9:40                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-08  9:45                     ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 10:00                       ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08 10:39                         ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 10:51                           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08 11:08                             ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 11:19                               ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08 11:35                                 ` Liu Yuan [this message]
2013-01-08 12:12                                   ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08 13:18                                     ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 13:23                                       ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 10:25                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 10:36                                         ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 10:40                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 10:46                                             ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 10:58                                               ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 11:10                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 12:07                                               ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 12:10                                                 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 12:16                                                 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 12:42                                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-09 13:04                                                   ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 15:10                                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10  5:38                                                       ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-11  7:52                                                         ` MORITA Kazutaka
2013-01-11  8:07                                                           ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-11  9:00                                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-11  9:04                                                               ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-11  9:34                                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-11  9:38                                                                   ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-11  9:40                                                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-11  9:32                                                           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-10 15:25                                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2013-01-10 15:31                                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 17:22                                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2013-01-09 11:10                                           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-09 10:23                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 15:12                             ` Jamie Lokier
2013-01-10 15:21                               ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-10  8:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] " Liu Yuan
2013-01-10  9:04   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-11  7:35   ` MORITA Kazutaka
2013-01-11  9:23     ` Kevin Wolf

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