From: Wenchao Xia <xiawenc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, aliguori@us.ibm.com, quintela@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, lcapitulino@redhat.com,
pbonzini@redhat.com, dietmar@proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 07/10] snapshot: qmp use new internal API for external snapshot transaction
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:56:30 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50F373DE.4060709@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130111091253.GA31400@stefanha-thinkpad.muc.redhat.com>
于 2013-1-11 17:12, Stefan Hajnoczi 写道:
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 02:22:28PM +0800, Wenchao Xia wrote:
>> 于 2013-1-10 20:41, Stefan Hajnoczi 写道:
>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:21:22AM +0800, Wenchao Xia wrote:
>>>> 于 2013-1-9 20:44, Stefan Hajnoczi 写道:
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 03:28:06PM +0800, Wenchao Xia wrote:
>>>>>> This patch switch to internal common API to take group external
>>>>>> snapshots from qmp_transaction interface. qmp layer simply does
>>>>>> a translation from user input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Wenchao Xia <xiawenc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> blockdev.c | 215 ++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------------------------
>>>>>> 1 files changed, 87 insertions(+), 128 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> An internal API for snapshots is not necessary. qmp_transaction() is
>>>>> already usable both from the monitor and C code.
>>>>>
>>>>> The QAPI code generator creates structs that can be accessed directly
>>>> >from C. qmp_transaction(), BlockdevAction, and BlockdevActionList *is*
>>>>> the snapshot API. It just doesn't support internal snapshots yet, which
>>>>> is what you are trying to add.
>>>>>
>>>>> To add internal snapshot support, define a BlockdevInternalSnapshot type
>>>>> in qapi-schema.json and add internal snapshot support in
>>>>> qmp_transaction().
>>>>>
>>>>> qmp_transaction() was designed with this in mind from the beginning and
>>>>> dispatches based on BlockdevAction->kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> The patch series will become much smaller while still adding internal
>>>>> snapshot support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As API, qmp_transaction have following disadvantages:
>>>> 1) interface is based on string not data type inside qemu, that means
>>>> other function calling it result in: bdrv->string->bdrv
>>>
>>> Use bdrv_get_device_name(). You already need to fill in filename or
>>> snapshot name strings. This is not a big disadvantage.
>>>
>> Yes, not a big disadvantage, but why not save string operation but
>> use (bdrv*) as much as possible?
>>
>> what happens will be:
>>
>> hmp-snapshot
>> |
>> qmp-snapshot
>> |---------
>> |
>> qmp-transaction savevm(may be other..)
>> |----------------------|
>> |
>> internal transaction layer
>
> Saving the string operation is not worth duplicating the API.
>
I agree with you for this line:), but, it is a weight on the balance
of choice, pls consider it together with issues below.
>>>> 2) all capability are forced to be exposed.
>>>
>>> Is there something you cannot expose?
>>>
>> As other component in qemu can use it, some option may
>> be used only in qemu not to user. For eg, vm-state-size.
>
> When we hit a limitation of QAPI then it needs to be extended. I'm sure
> there's a solution for splitting or hiding parts of the QAPI generated
> API.
>
I can't think it out now, it seems to be a bit tricky.
>>>> 3) need structure to record each transaction state, such as
>>>> BlkTransactionStates. Extending it is equal to add an internal layer.
>>>
>>> I agree that extending it is equal coding effort to adding an internal
>>> layer because you'll need to refactor qmp_transaction() a bit to really
>>> support additional action types.
>>>
>>> But it's the right thing to do. Don't add unnecessary layers just
>>> because writing new code is more fun than extending existing code.
>>>
>> If this layer is not added but depending only qmp_transaction, there
>> will be many "if else" fragment. I have tried that and the code
>> is awkful, this layer did not bring extra burden only make what
>> happens inside qmp_transaction clearer, I did not add this layer just
>> for fun.
>>
>>
>>>> Actually I started up by use qmp_transaction as API, but soon
>>>> found that work is almost done around BlkTransactionStates, so
>>>> added a layer around it clearly.
>
> The qmp_transaction() implementation can be changed, I'm not saying you
> have to hack in more if statements. It's cleanest to introduce a
> BdrvActionOps abstraction:
>
> typedef struct BdrvActionOps BdrvActionOps;
> typedef struct BdrvTransactionState {
> const BdrvActionOps *ops;
> QLIST_ENTRY(BdrvTransactionState);
> } BdrvTransactionState;
>
> struct BdrvActionOps {
> int (*prepare)(BdrvTransactionState *s, ...);
> int (*commit)(BdrvTransactionState *s, ...);
> int (*rollback)(BdrvTransactionState *s, ...);
> };
>
> BdrvTransactionState *bdrv_transaction_create(BlockdevAction *action);
>
> Then qmp_transaction() can be generic code that steps through the
> transactions.
With internal API, qmp_transaction can still be generic code with
a translate from bdrv* to char* at caller level.
This is similar to what your series does and I think it's
> the right direction.
>
> But please don't duplicate the qmp_transaction() and
> BlockdevAction/BlockdevActionList APIs. In other words, change the
> engine, not the whole car.
>
> Stefan
>
If my understanding is correct, the BdrvActionOps need to be extended
as following:
struct BdrvActionOps {
/* need following for callback functions */
const char *sn_name;
BlockDriverState *bs;
...
int (*prepare)(BdrvTransactionState *s, ...);
int (*commit)(BdrvTransactionState *s, ...);
int (*rollback)(BdrvTransactionState *s, ...);
};
Or an opaque* should used for every BdrvActionOps.
Comparation:
The way above:
1) translate from BlockdevAction to BdrvTransactionState by
bdrv_transaction_create().
2) enqueue BdrvTransactionState by
some code.
3) execute them by
a new function, name it as BdrvActionOpsRun().
Internal API way:
1) translate BlockdevAction to BlkTransStates by
fill_blk_trs().
2) enqueue BlkTransStates to BlkTransStates by
add_transaction().
3) execute them by
submit_transaction().
It seems the way above will end as something like an internal
layer, but without clear APIs tips what it is doing. Please reconsider
the advantages about a clear internal API layer.
--
Best Regards
Wenchao Xia
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-14 2:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-07 7:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 00/10] snapshot: take block snapshots in unified way Wenchao Xia
2013-01-07 7:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 01/10] block: export function bdrv_find_snapshot() Wenchao Xia
2013-01-07 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 02/10] block: add function deappend() Wenchao Xia
2013-01-07 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 03/10] error: add function error_set_check() Wenchao Xia
2013-01-07 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 04/10] oslib-win32: add lock for time functions Wenchao Xia
2013-01-07 17:12 ` Stefan Weil
2013-01-08 2:27 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-01-07 7:28 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-01-07 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 05/10] snapshot: design of internal common API to take snapshots Wenchao Xia
2013-01-07 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 06/10] snapshot: implemention " Wenchao Xia
2013-01-07 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 07/10] snapshot: qmp use new internal API for external snapshot transaction Wenchao Xia
2013-01-09 12:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-10 3:21 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-01-10 12:41 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-11 6:22 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-01-11 9:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-14 2:56 ` Wenchao Xia [this message]
2013-01-14 10:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-15 7:03 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-03-12 8:30 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-03-12 15:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-13 1:36 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-03-13 8:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-13 10:18 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-03-14 5:08 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-03-14 8:22 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-03-18 10:00 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-01-07 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 08/10] snapshot: qmp add internal snapshot transaction interface Wenchao Xia
2013-01-07 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 09/10] snapshot: qmp add blockdev-snapshot-internal-sync interface Wenchao Xia
2013-01-07 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 10/10] snapshot: hmp add internal snapshot support for block device Wenchao Xia
2013-01-09 22:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 00/10] snapshot: take block snapshots in unified way Eric Blake
2013-01-10 6:01 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-01-11 13:56 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-01-14 2:09 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-01-14 10:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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