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From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: mdroth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Joel Schopp <jschopp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Michael Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] qapi_sized_buffer
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:24:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5141EB93.2090405@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130314151121.GB9093@vm>

On 03/14/2013 11:11 AM, mdroth wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51:49AM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
>> On 03/14/2013 10:28 AM, mdroth wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 09:39:14AM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>>> On 03/14/2013 08:18 AM, mdroth wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:48:11PM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/13/2013 07:18 PM, mdroth wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 06:00:24PM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 03/13/2013 04:52 PM, mdroth wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Visitors don't have any knowledge of the data structures they're visiting
>>>>>>> outside of what we tell them via the visit_*() API.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example, a visitor for a 16-element array of:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> typedef struct ComplexType {
>>>>>>>      int32_t foo;
>>>>>>>      char *bar;
>>>>>>> } ComplexType;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would look something like:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> visit_start_carray(v, ...); // instruct visitor how to calculate offsets
>>>>>>> for (i = 0; i < 16; i++) {
>>>>>>>      visit_type_ComplexType(v, ...) // instruct visitor how to handle elem
>>>>>>>      visit_next_carray(v, ...); // instruct visitor to move to next offset
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>> visit_end_carray(v, ...); // instruct visitor to finalize array
>>>>>> Given this example above, I think we will need the sized buffer. The
>>>>>> sized buffer targets  binary arrays and their encoding. If I was to
>>>>>> encode an 'unsigned char[n]' (e.g., n=200) using n, or n/2 or n/4
>>>>>> loops like above breaking it apart in u8, u16 or u32 respectively I
>>>>>> think this would 'not bed good' also considering the 2 bytes for tag
>>>>>> and length being added by ASN.1 for every such datatype
>>>>>> (u8,u16,u32). The sized buffer allows you to for example take a
>>>>>> memory page and write it out in one chunk adding a few bytes of
>>>>>> ASN.1 'decoration' around the actual data.
>>>>> You could do it with this interface as well actually. The Visitor will
>>>>> need to maintain some internal state to differentiate what it does with
>>>>> subsequent visit_type*/visit_next_carray/visit_end_carry. There's no
>>>>> reason it couldn't also track the elem size so it could tag a buffer
>>>>> "en masse" when visit_end_carray() gets called.
>>>> It depends on what you pass into visit_start_carray. In your case if
>>>> you pass in ComplexType you would pass in a sizeof(ComplexType) for
>>>> the size of each element presumably. The problem is now you havechar *foo, a string pointer, hanging off of this structure. How
>>>> would you handle that? Serializing ComplexType's foo and pointer
>>>> obviously won't do it.
>>> Why not?  visit_type_ComplexType() knows how to deal with
>>> the individual fields, including the string pointer. I'm not sure
>>> what's at issue here.
>>>
>>> In this case the handling for ComplexType would look something like:
>>>
>>> visit_type_Complex:
>>>      visit_start_struct
>>>      visit_type_uin32 //foo
>>>      visit_type_str //bar
>>>      visit_end_struct
>>>
>>> Granted, strings are easier to deal with. If char * was instead a plain
>>> old uint8_t*, we'd need a nested call to start_carray for each element.
>>> in this case it would look something like:
>>>
>>> visit_type_Complex:
>>>      visit_start_struct
>>>      visit_type_uin32 //foo field
>>>      visit_start_carray //bar field
>>>      for (i = 0; i < len_of_bar; i++):
>>>          visit_type_uint8
>>>          visit_next_carray
>>>      visit_end_carray
>> You really want to create a separate element for each element in
>> this potentially large binary array? I guess it depends on the
>> underlying data, but this has the potential of generating a lot of
>> control code around each such byte... As said, for ASN.1 encoding,
>> each such byte would be decorated with a tag and a length value,
>> consuming 2 more bytes per byte.
> I addressed this earlier. Your visitor doesn't have tag each
> element: if it know it's handling an array (because we told it via
> start_carray()), it can buffer them internally and tag the array en
> masse when end_carray() is issued.

If we were to do this using carray on an array of structs of the 
following type

struct SimpleStruct {
     uint8_t a;
     uint8_t b;
     uint32_t c;
}

then the serialization of a and b would be buffered and flushed once the 
32bit output visitor (or any other than uint8_t output visitor) would be 
called? Now this does makes the implementation a lot more difficult.

   Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-14 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-13 18:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/9 v3] Implement and test asn1 ber visitors Joel Schopp
2013-03-13 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] qemu-file Joel Schopp
2013-03-13 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/9] qapi_c_arrays.diff Joel Schopp
2013-03-13 19:11   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-13 22:54   ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-13 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/9] two new file wrappers Joel Schopp
2013-03-13 21:04   ` Eric Blake
2013-03-14 10:49     ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-13 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/9] qemu_qsb.diff Joel Schopp
2013-03-13 21:11   ` mdroth
2013-03-13 21:28     ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-13 22:41       ` mdroth
2013-03-13 22:47         ` mdroth
2013-03-13 23:11           ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-13 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] qapi_sized_buffer Joel Schopp
2013-03-13 20:52   ` mdroth
2013-03-13 22:00     ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-13 23:18       ` mdroth
2013-03-14  1:48         ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-14 12:18           ` mdroth
2013-03-14 13:39             ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-14 14:28               ` mdroth
2013-03-14 14:51                 ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-14 15:11                   ` mdroth
2013-03-14 15:24                     ` Stefan Berger [this message]
2013-03-14 21:06                       ` mdroth
2013-03-15  2:05                         ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-13 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/9] asn1_output-visitor.diff Joel Schopp
2013-03-13 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] asn1_input-visitor.diff Joel Schopp
2013-03-13 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/9] asn1_test_visitor_serialization.diff Joel Schopp
2013-03-13 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/9] update_maintainers.diff Joel Schopp
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-03-13  3:09 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/9 v2] Implement and test asn1 ber visitors Joel Schopp
2013-03-13  3:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] qapi_sized_buffer Joel Schopp

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