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From: "Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, owasserm@redhat.com,
	abali@us.ibm.com, mrhines@us.ibm.com, gokul@us.ibm.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 03/10] more verbose documentation of the RDMA transport
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:21:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5148664E.3090207@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130319081939.GC11259@redhat.com>

On 03/19/2013 04:19 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> We have ways (e.g. cgroups) to limit what a VM can do. If it tries to 
> use more RAM than we let it, it will swap, still making progress, just 
> slower. OTOH it looks like pinning more memory than allowed by the 
> cgroups limit will just get stuck forever (probably a bug, should fail 
> instead? but does not help your protocol which needs it all pinned at 
> all times). There are also per-task resource limits. If you exceed 
> this registration will fail, so not good either. I just don't see why 
> do registration by chunks on source but not on destination. 

Would this a hard requirement for an initial version?

I do understand how and why this makes things more flexible during
the long run, but it does have the potential to slow down the RDMA
protocol significantly.

The way its implemented now, the sender can dump bytes
onto the wire at full speed (up to 30gbps last time I measured it),
but if we insert a round-trip message + registration on the
destination side before we're allowed to push more bytes out,
we'll have to introduce more complex flow control only for
the benefit of making the destination side have the flexibility
that you described.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-19 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-18  3:18 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 00/10] cleaner ramblocks and documentation mrhines
2013-03-18  3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 01/10] ./configure --enable-rdma mrhines
2013-03-18  3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 02/10] check for CONFIG_RDMA mrhines
2013-03-18  3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 03/10] more verbose documentation of the RDMA transport mrhines
2013-03-18 10:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-18 20:24     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18 21:26       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-18 23:23         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19  8:19           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 13:21             ` Michael R. Hines [this message]
2013-03-19 15:08             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:16               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 15:32                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:36                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 17:09                     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 17:14                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 17:23                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 17:40                         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 17:52                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 18:04                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 13:07                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 15:15                               ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 15:22                                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 15:55                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 16:08                                   ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 19:06                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:20                                       ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 20:31                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:39                                           ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 20:46                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:56                                               ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-21  5:20                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:24                                   ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 20:37                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:45                                       ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 20:52                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 17:49                         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-21  6:11                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 15:22                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-05 20:45                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-05 20:46                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18  3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 04/10] iterators for getting the RAMBlocks mrhines
2013-03-18  8:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 20:25     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18  3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 05/10] reuse function for parsing the QMP 'migrate' string mrhines
2013-03-18  3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 06/10] core RDMA migration code (rdma.c) mrhines
2013-03-18  3:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 07/10] connection-establishment for RDMA mrhines
2013-03-18  8:56   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 20:26     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18  3:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 08/10] introduce QEMUFileRDMA mrhines
2013-03-18  9:09   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 20:33     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19  9:18       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 13:12         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 13:25           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 13:40             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 13:45               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 14:10                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 14:22                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 15:02                     ` [Qemu-devel] [Bug]? (RDMA-related) ballooned memory not consulted during migration? Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:12                       ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:17                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 18:27                     ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 08/10] introduce QEMUFileRDMA Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 18:40                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-20 15:20                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-20 16:09                           ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18  3:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 09/10] check for QMP string and bypass nonblock() calls mrhines
2013-03-18  8:47   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 20:37     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19  9:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 13:08         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 13:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18  3:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 10/10] send pc.ram over RDMA mrhines

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