From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42585) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIHdP-0000Wq-75 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 07:56:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIHdL-0002im-7A for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 07:56:47 -0400 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com ([46.33.159.39]:24311) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIHdL-0002iY-2I for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 07:56:43 -0400 Message-ID: <5149A41A.9020300@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:57:14 +0000 From: David Scott MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1363609123-20748-1-git-send-email-alex@alex.org.uk> <51471767.8030604@redhat.com> <7AC8953FE45335FB794B6DFE@Ximines.local> <51471F14.7030209@redhat.com> <6D0F4ACDA3B7FCF1A50F8B52@Ximines.local> <5147298C.8080900@redhat.com> <51473E82.1020806@redhat.com> <861AFE1A9C44444FD8BAEE16@Ximines.local> <5147512E.5050501@eu.citrix.com> <5147562E.1090203@redhat.com> <5148414C.7060303@redhat.com> <51484328.4030301@eu.citrix.com> <5148489C.70808@redhat.com> <51484A2B.10202@eu.citrix.com> <0E09404F0675BA19C550B743@nimrod.local> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] [PATCHv3] QEMU(upstream): Disable xen's use of O_DIRECT by default as it results in crashes. List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Stefano Stabellini Cc: Ian Campbell , George Dunlap , Ian Jackson , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" , xen-devel , Alex Bligh , Anthony Liguori , Paolo Bonzini Hi, On 20/03/13 10:24, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > That is true. My guess is that nobody really migrates HVM guests without > PV drivers installed (it's not even possible on XenServer but xl let you > do that if you want to). When the PV drivers initialize at boot time, > the IDE disk is closed. Therefore we wouldn't have this problem. > > Maybe we should prevent HVM guest migration without PV drivers with xl > too. Ian, what do you think? Although it's not normally possible on XenServer to migrate HVM guests without PV drivers, a lot of people override the check and do it anyway. It happens a lot in cloud scenarios where the host (XenServer) admin is different from the guest admin (the end customer) and it's impractical for the host admin to force the guest admin to load the drivers. We do our best to recommend, encourage and help people to install HVM PV drivers but we have to tolerate those who ignore our advice :/ Cheers, Dave