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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: amit.shah@redhat.com, Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Alon Levy <alevy@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] char: add qemu_chr_be_is_fe_connected
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:58:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <514C1D2C.9000509@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <514C158C.7050001@redhat.com>

Hi,

On 03/22/2013 09:25 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>    Hi,
>
>> There isn't a notion of "connected" for the front-ends in the char
>> layer.  The closest thing is whether add_handlers() have been called or
>> not.
>
> It isn't new.  There are qemu_chr_fe_open + qemu_chr_fe_close doing
> exactly that signaling (whenever someone has opened the virtio-serial
> port, i.e. whenever the guest agent is active or not).
>
> Problem is the chardev forgets this state over migration.
>
> So we need a way to restore the state.  virtio-serial knows it of course
> as this is guest state it has to keep track of it.  We just need a way
> the chardev can figure what the current state is after migration.
>
> The options I see:
>
>    (1) Have chardev store the state itself in a new migration section.
>        This is what I've NAK'ed.  First, because live-migration host
>        state is a can of worms I don't want open.  Second because it
>        actually isn't host state.
>
>    (2) virtio-serial could just call qemu_chr_fe_open in
>        post_migration hook.  Could have unwanted side effects as
>        the chardev can't figure whenever this is a post-load call
>        or a guest-open call.
>
>    (3) Add a new qemu_chr_fe_* call for virtio-serial to notify the
>        chardev.  This was the next proposal from Alon
>
>    (4) Do it the other way around:  Allow the chardev query what the
>        current state is.  This patch series.
>

Thanks for the above overview, very useful!

>    (5) Cut off the chardev layer altogether and implement spicevmc as
>        virtio-serial port.  Your proposal if I understand it correctly.
>        Makes sense, but breaks backward compatibility, so even when
>        doing this we must fix the chardev spicevmc bug somehow.

I've to nack this one, spicevmc is a chardev backend which is also used
with other frontends then just virtio-console, atm it is also used together
with the usb-redir and smartcard frontends and there is no reason why it
could not be used with others in the future, so: NACK.

Regards,

Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-22  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-20  9:55 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/4] for spice post load char device hook Alon Levy
2013-03-20  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] char: add a post_load callback Alon Levy
2013-03-20 13:08   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-20 16:59     ` Alon Levy
2013-03-21  6:53       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-03-21  8:54         ` Alon Levy
2013-03-20 17:05     ` Alon Levy
2013-03-20 18:59       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-21  8:27         ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-21  8:36           ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-21 16:35         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] spice-qemu-char fix agent mouse after migration Alon Levy
2013-03-21 16:35           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] char: add qemu_chr_be_is_fe_connected Alon Levy
2013-03-21 18:18             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-21 18:35               ` Alon Levy
2013-03-21 19:24                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-21 21:55                   ` Alon Levy
2013-03-21 22:05                     ` Alon Levy
2013-03-22  7:56               ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-22 13:50                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-22 15:53                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-03-22 16:50                   ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-22 17:11                     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-24 12:37                       ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-22  8:25               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-03-22  8:58                 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2013-03-22 13:33                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-21 16:35           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] spice-qemu-char: register interface on post load Alon Levy
2013-03-22  8:07             ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-22  8:16               ` Alon Levy
2013-03-22  8:55                 ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-20  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] virtio-serial: add a post_load callback implemented by port Alon Levy
2013-03-20  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] virtio-console: implement post_load to call to qemu_chr_fe_post_load Alon Levy
2013-03-20  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] spice-qemu-char: register interface on post load Alon Levy

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