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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: amit.shah@redhat.com, Alon Levy <alevy@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kraxel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] char: add qemu_chr_be_is_fe_connected
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:37:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <514EF39B.1000904@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wqsz2wbv.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

Hi,

On 03/22/2013 06:11 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> writes:

<snip>

> If the qemu-char.c code did:
>
> int qemu_chr_fe_write(...) {
>      if (!s->fe_open) {
>          qemu_chr_fe_open(s);
>      }
>      ...
> }
>
> That would be one thing.  It's a hack, but a more reasonable hack than
> doing this in the backend like we do today.

Agreed.

> And in fact, herein lies exactly what the problem is.  There is no
> "s->fe_open".  And if such a thing did exist, we would note that this is
> in fact guest state and that it needs to be taken care of during
> migration.

Agreed too, I've prepared a patch set adding fe_open and cleaning up the
whole existing code around the fe_open stuff. I'll send it directly after
this mail.

<snip>

>> We could do the same and have a qemu_fe_generic_open for frontends which
>> does the qemu_chr_fe_open call.
>
> You mean, in qemu_chr_fe_write()?  Yes, I think not doing this bit in
> the backend and making it part of qemu-char would be a significant
> improvement and would also guide in solving this problem correctly.

I believe that qemu_chr_fe_write is too late, this assumes that the
frontend is always the first one to do a write (assuming fe_open aware
backends won't do anything until the fe_open happens). But what if the
protocol going over the chardev expects the backend to do the first
write? Then the backend will just sit there waiting for the fe_open,
and the frontend will just sit there waiting for the first write before
sending this fe_open.

I believe that your previous comments on qemu_chr_add_handlers being
the closest thing to a fe_open for many frontends is correct, esp. since
some frontends and hw/qdev-properties-system.c do a NULL
qemu_chr_add_handlers when a frontend is being unregistered / removed /
closed. Which gives us a central place to detect frontend closes too.

So this is what I've used in my patch-set.

> Also, you can get reset handling for free by unconditionally clearly
> s->fe_open with a reset handler.  That would also simplify the
> virtio-serial code since it would no longer need the reset logic.
>
>>> And for me, the most logical thing is to call qemu_chr_fe_open() in
>>> post_load for the device.
>>
>> With the device I assume you mean the frontend? That is what we originally
>> suggested and submitted a patch for (for virtio-console) but Amit didn't
>> like it.
>
> As Avi would say, this is "derived guest state" and derived guest state
> has to be recomputed in post_load handlers.

Agreed, which brings us back to the original patch posted a long time
ago which Amit did not like:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2012-11/msg02721.html

Amit can you take a second look at this? Note that after the cleanup patchset
which I'll send right after this mail, it will look slightly different, something
like:

@@ -653,6 +654,10 @@ static void virtio_serial_post_load_timer_cb(void *opaque)
              send_control_event(port, VIRTIO_CONSOLE_PORT_OPEN,
                                 port->host_connected);
          }
+        vsc = VIRTIO_SERIAL_PORT_GET_CLASS(port);
+        if (vsc->set_guest_connected) {
+            vsc->set_guest_connected(port, port->guest_connected);
+        }
      }
      g_free(s->post_load.connected);
      s->post_load.connected = NULL;

Which to me looks like a reasonable thing to do on post-load.

Regards,

Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-24 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-20  9:55 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/4] for spice post load char device hook Alon Levy
2013-03-20  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] char: add a post_load callback Alon Levy
2013-03-20 13:08   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-20 16:59     ` Alon Levy
2013-03-21  6:53       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-03-21  8:54         ` Alon Levy
2013-03-20 17:05     ` Alon Levy
2013-03-20 18:59       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-21  8:27         ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-21  8:36           ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-21 16:35         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] spice-qemu-char fix agent mouse after migration Alon Levy
2013-03-21 16:35           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] char: add qemu_chr_be_is_fe_connected Alon Levy
2013-03-21 18:18             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-21 18:35               ` Alon Levy
2013-03-21 19:24                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-21 21:55                   ` Alon Levy
2013-03-21 22:05                     ` Alon Levy
2013-03-22  7:56               ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-22 13:50                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-22 15:53                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-03-22 16:50                   ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-22 17:11                     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-24 12:37                       ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2013-03-22  8:25               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-03-22  8:58                 ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-22 13:33                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-21 16:35           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] spice-qemu-char: register interface on post load Alon Levy
2013-03-22  8:07             ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-22  8:16               ` Alon Levy
2013-03-22  8:55                 ` Hans de Goede
2013-03-20  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] virtio-serial: add a post_load callback implemented by port Alon Levy
2013-03-20  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] virtio-console: implement post_load to call to qemu_chr_fe_post_load Alon Levy
2013-03-20  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] spice-qemu-char: register interface on post load Alon Levy

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