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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, owasserm@redhat.com, abali@us.ibm.com,
	mrhines@us.ibm.com, gokul@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 10/13] introduce new command migrate_check_for_zero
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:45:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5166CC9A.2030505@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5166CA42.5050505@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Il 11/04/2013 16:35, Michael R. Hines ha scritto:
> Can I at least get a firm yes or no whether the maintainer will
> accept this capability or not?
> 
> What you ask would require defining what a "real world scenario" is,

A TPC benchmark would be a real world scenario.

> and I don't think that's a good discussion to have right now. Even if we did
> know the definition, I do not have the infrastructure in place to do an exhaustive
> search of such a workload.
> 
> My personal view is: new software should define APIs, not hide APIs.

Right, but introducing new APIs is not free.

Let's leave is_dup_page unconditionally in now.  We can always remove it
later if it turns out to be useful.

The important thing is to have the code in early to give it wider
exposure.  Once it is in, people can test it more, benchmark
with/without is_dup_page, etc.  We can declare it experimental, and
break the protocol later if it turns out to be bad.

I think all that's needed is:

1) benchmark the various chunk sizes (with is_dup_page disabled and your
current stress test -- better than nothing).  Please confirm that the
source can modify the chunk size and the destination will just pick it up.

2) remove the patch to disable is_dup_page

3) rename the transport to "x-rdma" (just in migration.c).

And that's it.  The patches should be ready.

We have converged on a good interface between RDMA and the generic
migration code, and that's the important thing because later
implementations will not throw away that work.

Paolo

> The capability already has a default 'true' value, which is the same behavior
> that the value has always been and nobody's threatening to get rid of that.
> 
> - Michael

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-11 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-10 22:28 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v7: 00/13] rdma cleanup and reordering mrhines
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 01/13] introduce qemu_ram_foreach_block() mrhines
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 02/13] Core RMDA logic mrhines
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 03/13] RDMA is enabled by default per the usual ./configure testing mrhines
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 04/13] update QEMUFileOps with new hooks mrhines
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 05/13] accessor function prototypes for new QEMUFileOps hooks mrhines
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 06/13] implementation of " mrhines
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 07/13] introduce capability for dynamic chunk registration mrhines
2013-04-11  2:24   ` Eric Blake
2013-04-11  2:39     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 08/13] default chunk registration to true mrhines
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 09/13] parse QMP string for new 'rdma' protocol mrhines
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 10/13] introduce new command migrate_check_for_zero mrhines
2013-04-11  2:26   ` Eric Blake
2013-04-11  2:39     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11  7:52       ` Orit Wasserman
2013-04-11 12:30         ` Eric Blake
2013-04-11 12:36           ` Orit Wasserman
2013-04-11 17:53             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11  3:11     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11  7:38   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11  9:18     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 11:13       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 13:19         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 13:51           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 14:06             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 14:17               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 14:35                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 14:45                   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-04-11 15:37                     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 13:24       ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 14:15         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 14:45           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 14:57           ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 15:01             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 15:08             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 15:35               ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 15:45                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 16:02                   ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 16:12                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 16:07                   ` Eric Blake
2013-04-11 16:29                     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 16:36                       ` Eric Blake
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 11/13] send pc.ram over RDMA mrhines
2013-04-11  6:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 12:41     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 12/13] updated protocol documentation mrhines
2013-04-11  2:43   ` Eric Blake
2013-04-11  2:47     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11  6:29   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-10 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v1: 13/13] print out migration throughput while debugging mrhines
2013-04-10 22:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v7: 00/13] rdma cleanup and reordering Michael R. Hines

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