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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, peter.maydell@linaro.org, aliguori@us.ibm.com,
	ehabkost@redhat.com, gleb@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com,
	jan.kiszka@siemens.com, quintela@redhat.com,
	claudio.fontana@huawei.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	aderumier@odiso.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	anthony.perard@citrix.com, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	kraxel@redhat.com, yang.z.zhang@intel.com,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	lcapitulino@redhat.com, afaerber@suse.de,
	stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/21] introduce memory_region_get_address() and use it in kvm/ioapic
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:49:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <517E4225.7080804@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAu8pHtLQCen81cjYjf++H6seHPQUirBQ8G+KTxcS+kz-HiM2Q@mail.gmail.com>

Il 27/04/2013 22:57, Blue Swirl ha scritto:
>> The questions are, in order of importance:
>>
>> (1) what privileges would this require in the guest?  Answer: a lot.
>>
>> (2) is this likely to happen by chance?  Answer: no, not at all.
>>
>> (3) is there a workaround?  Answer: yes, disable in-kernel irqchip.
> 
> These questions ask if there is a risk of benevolent guests performing
> these activities and I agree that the chances are close to zero.
> 
> But the interesting question is to ask if a malevolent guest can bring
> down a VM uncontrollably this way and I think it only needs a few
> elevated privileges in a guest to do this.

If you have them, isn't it simpler to just turn off the VM (using APM or
ACPI)?  Also, killing your guest is not a very interesting thing to do
once you've gotten elevated privileges. ;)

>> Simply setting IO_APIC_DEFAULT_ADDRESS is also flawed in my opinion.
>> I'm not sure the in-kernel irqchip handles correctly an overlap between
>> the IOAPIC and LAPIC regions, maybe an abort is predictable after all.
> 
> At least the guest needs to be stopped. Perhaps we should have a
> common function which does this and logs the guest error so we can
> start replacing calls to abort() with it.

Yes, that's a good idea.  We can reuse the internal error runstate for that.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-29  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-23  8:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21 v5] target-i386: CPU hot-add with cpu-add QMP command Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/21] cpu: make kvm-stub.o a part of CPU library Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23 15:06   ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/21] cpu: call cpu_synchronize_post_init() from CPUClass.realize() if hotplugged Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23 15:59   ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-24 12:08     ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-24 13:34       ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/21] introduce cpu_resume(), for single CPU Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 15:21   ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/21] cpu: resume CPU from CPUClass.cpu_common_realizefn() when it is hot-plugged Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 15:37   ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/21] introduce CPU hot-plug notifier Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 16:52   ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/21] target-i386: pc: update rtc_cmos on CPU hot-plug Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 17:03   ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-24 20:04     ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/21] cpu: introduce get_arch_id() method and override it for target-i386 Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 17:51   ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/21] exec: add qemu_for_each_cpu Igor Mammedov
2013-04-25 14:48   ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/21] cpu: add helper cpu_exists(), to check if CPU with specified id exists Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/21] acpi_piix4: add infrastructure to send CPU hot-plug GPE to guest Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23 11:38   ` Juan Quintela
2013-04-23 12:54     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23 13:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-23 14:51         ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23 15:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-23 13:16       ` Juan Quintela
2013-04-23 15:25       ` Juan Quintela
2013-04-23 15:53         ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23 13:43   ` Juan Quintela
2013-04-23 13:58     ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-04-23 14:10     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23 16:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/21 DISGISED v6] " Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 15:56     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 16:03       ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-04-24 16:07         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-24 16:09         ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-24 17:22           ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 15:58   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/19 v7] " Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 16:06     ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-24 17:15       ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 18:57   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/21 v8] " Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/21] target-i386: introduce apic-id property Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/21] target-i386: introduce ICC bus/device/bridge Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/21] target-i386: cpu: attach ICC bus to CPU on its creation Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/21] target-i386: replace MSI_SPACE_SIZE with APIC_SPACE_SIZE Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/21] target-i386: kvmvapic: make expilict dependency on sysbus.h Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/21] target-i386: move APIC to ICC bus Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/21] introduce memory_region_get_address() and use it in kvm/ioapic Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23 17:02   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-23 17:06   ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-23 17:14     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-23 17:26       ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-23 17:39         ` Jan Kiszka
2013-04-23 18:00           ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-23 21:02             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-23 21:39               ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-23 21:46                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-23 22:00                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-24 10:22                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-24 10:26                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-24 16:02   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/19 v2] extend memory_region_find() " Igor Mammedov
2013-04-25 18:37   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/21] introduce memory_region_get_address() " Blue Swirl
2013-04-26 14:17     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-26 17:35       ` Blue Swirl
2013-04-26 17:46         ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-26 22:13           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-27 10:09             ` Blue Swirl
2013-04-27 12:12               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-27 20:57                 ` Blue Swirl
2013-04-29  9:49                   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-04-29  9:55                   ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/21] target-i386: move IOAPIC to ICC bus Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/21] add hot_add_cpu hook to QEMUMachine and export machine_args Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 17:25   ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-24 17:42     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-25 16:58     ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/21] target-i386: implement machine->hot_add_cpu hook Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 17:31   ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-24 19:14     ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-04-23  8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/21] QMP: add cpu-add command Igor Mammedov
2013-04-23 13:26   ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-04-23 14:15     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-04-24 19:44   ` Eric Blake

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