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From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Li Zhang <zhlcindy@gmail.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@au1.ibm.com>,
	Pradipta Kumar Banerjee <bpradip@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [qemu-devel][libvirt] Default machine type setting for ppc64
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 16:40:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <519B8770.9030109@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y5b8bkt3.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

On 21/05/13 14:04, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 07:55:27PM +1000, Paul Mackerras wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 09:39:53AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>>>> QEMU has the notion of a default machine for each target, and that is
>>>> what libvirt uses if the user hasn't specified a machine.  It is not
>>>> libvirt's job to override QEMU's notion of the default machine here,
>>>> so if the 'mac99' machine type isn't suitable as the default either
>>>> QEMU needs to change that for the ppc target, or the user needs to
>>>> explicitly specify their desired machine type.
>>>
>>> We are getting the default changed to 'pseries', at least for cases
>>> where pseries support is compiled in, which isn't necessarily
>>> always.  That will of course not satisfy the Freescale guys.
>>>
>>> I think libvirt needs some more sensible way to ask qemu what its
>>> capabilities are.  Currently it has no way to ask qemu "what machines
>>> can you emulate with kvm acceleration?"  If the user has asked for a
>>> KVM domain then the default machine should be one that can be provided
>>> by KVM.  At present it isn't, on PowerPC.
>>
>> If QEMU can provide more intelligent info in this respect, then
>> libvirt can use it. We're doing the best we can with picking
>> defaults given the info QEMU currently provides us.
> 
> We've talked in the past about having an accelerator specific machine
> default.  I think this is a perfectly reasonable thing to do and would
> solve the problem for ARM and for PPC.

If we get such thing, then virtio-ccw might also be the right default for kvm 
on s390.

Christian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-05-21 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-21  8:19 [Qemu-devel] [qemu-devel][libvirt] Default machine type setting for ppc64 Li Zhang
2013-05-21  8:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Li Zhang
2013-05-21  8:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-devel][libvirt] " Peter Maydell
2013-05-21  8:39   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-05-21  8:45     ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-21  9:02       ` Li Zhang
2013-05-21  9:24         ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-21  9:25         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-05-21 15:00           ` Li Zhang
2013-05-21  9:55     ` Paul Mackerras
2013-05-21 10:01       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-05-21 10:22         ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-21 12:04         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-21 12:15           ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-21 14:40           ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2013-05-21 16:42         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-21 17:12           ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] [qemu-devel] " Eric Blake
2013-05-21 17:42             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-05-21 20:01               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-22 15:26                 ` Li Zhang
2013-05-21 15:17       ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-devel][libvirt] " Li Zhang
2013-05-21  8:45   ` Li Zhang

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