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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	KVM devel mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	seabios@seabios.org,
	qemu-devel qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>,
	ddutile@redhat.com, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Jordan Justen <jljusten@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2013-05-28
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 16:28:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51A8B38A.6010109@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1370009305.5141.95.camel@i7.infradead.org>

On 05/31/13 16:08, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-05-31 at 08:04 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>> <soapbox>
>>
>> Fork OVMF, drop the fat module, and just add GPL code.  It's an easily
>> solvable problem.
> 
> Heh. Actually it doesn't need to be a fork. It's modular, and the FAT
> driver is just a single module. Which is actually included in *binary*
> form in the EDK2 repository, I believe, and its source code is
> elsewhere.

Correct.

> We could happily make a GPL¹ or LGPL implementation of a FAT module and
> build our OVMF with that instead, and we wouldn't need to fork OVMF at
> all.

Yes, that's one plan, *if* someone can sort out, or is willing to
shoulder, the perhaps illogical but still worrisome surroundings of
FatPkg / FatBinPkg.

(I don't intend to spread FUD!)

For example, if your employer authorizes you to implement GplFatPkg from
scratch, and distribute it as an external module, I -- as someone
without any education in law though -- will give you a standing ovation
and buy you a case of beer at KVM Forum 2013. Deal? :)

(You proved to have great leverage by getting the efi compat table
extended, so... :))

> ¹ If it's GPL, of course, then we mustn't include any *other* binary
> blobs in our OVMF build. But the whole point in this conversation is
> that we don't *want* to do that. So that's fine.

Right. Eg. Shell1 is embedded as a pre-built binary, but that's just
"convenience", you can build the in-tree Shell2 from source afresh and
embed that instead (and ship its source too).

Laszlo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-31 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-23 12:41 [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2013-05-28 Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24  3:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " li guang
2013-05-28 23:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-29  8:45   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 16:12     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 16:19       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30  6:37       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-06-02 15:05     ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Gleb Natapov
2013-06-02 15:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-02 15:40         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-02 15:53           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-03  6:25       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29  8:49   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-29  9:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29  9:42       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-29  9:46         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 16:18     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 16:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 18:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 16:35       ` Markus Armbruster
2013-05-30  1:12       ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-31 12:16         ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-30  6:12       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-30  9:23       ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-30 11:13         ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-30 12:19           ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-30 12:27             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30 12:43             ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-30 16:20             ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-30 16:41               ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-30 16:57                 ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-30 17:37                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-30 17:45                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-31  9:32                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-31  9:55                   ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-31 23:01                   ` Jordan Justen
2013-06-03  5:28                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-30 17:44               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-31 12:09               ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-31 19:48                 ` Patrick Georgi
2013-05-29  9:54   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-31  2:34   ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-31  7:09     ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31  8:13       ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Peter Stuge
2013-05-31 10:05         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-31 13:03         ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-01  3:41         ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-31 11:45       ` [Qemu-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-31 13:04         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 14:08           ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-31 14:28             ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2013-05-31 15:43             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 16:33               ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-31 16:54                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-31 17:06                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 18:09                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-31 18:35                     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 19:28                       ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31 20:44                         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 16:45               ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]           ` <51A8AD52.3070901@redhat.com>
2013-05-31 14:38             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 16:36               ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-31 17:10                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 19:02               ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31 20:27                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 21:03                   ` Jordan Justen
2013-06-01  0:01                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-01  3:16                       ` Jordan Justen
2013-06-02  9:43         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-03  7:24           ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31 12:58     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 13:02       ` David Woodhouse
2013-06-01  3:11       ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-02  9:54     ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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