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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>,
	Jordan Justen <jljusten@gmail.com>,
	Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: piix: PCI bridge ACPI hotplug support
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:42:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51B6D4E5.2070100@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130611065525.GB31474@redhat.com>

  Hi,

>>> Portability:
>>>     - Non x86 (or any Linux) platforms don't need any of this code.
>>>       They can keep happily using SHPC the way
>>>       they always did.
>>
>> Hmm.  Is is possible to write a SHPC driver in AML?  I think it would be
>> alot better to have one guest/host interface for pci bridge hotplug
>> instead of two.
>>
>> cheers,
>>   Gerd
> 
> No, it's not possible, SHPC is not designed to be used from ACPI.
> 
> Two reasons off the top of my head, there are likely others:
> 
> 1. SHPC uses regular PCI interrupts to signal events. It does not signal
>    GFE and SCI.
> 
> 2. SHPC uses config accesses to get information from device.
>    ACPI does not allow config access anywhere except the root bus from ACPI
>    (This requirement is designed to give the OS freedom
>    to reconfigure PCI in an arbitrary way).

OK, so it's designed for OSes to have native SHPC support.  Linux has that?

Quick googling found me Windows Vista+ has it too, correct?  So that
leaves Win2k + WinXP versions.  Older Windows versions do not support
pci hotplug at all.  Win2k is EOL already.  WinXP will follow soon.

More users?

/me wonders whenever it is worth hopping through the loops needed to
support ACPI-based hotplug of devices behind bridges in the first place.

cheers,
  Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-11  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-10 16:41 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: piix: PCI bridge ACPI hotplug support Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-10 18:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-10 19:17   ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-10 19:50     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-10 19:43   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-10 19:57     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-10 20:43       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-10 21:14         ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-10 21:45         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-10 23:05           ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-10 23:34             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-10 23:52               ` David Woodhouse
2013-06-11  0:11                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-11 14:11                   ` David Woodhouse
2013-06-11  0:23               ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-11  0:51                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-11  1:19                   ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-11  1:25                     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-11  1:49                       ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-11  6:49                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11  0:28           ` Jordan Justen
2013-06-11  1:03             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-11  1:32               ` Jordan Justen
2013-06-11  7:35               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-13 23:05                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-14  0:59                   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-14  1:23                     ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Peter Stuge
2013-06-11 14:04               ` David Woodhouse
2013-06-13 23:02               ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-14  0:26                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-16 10:00                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-11  5:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11  5:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-06-11  6:55   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11  7:42     ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2013-06-11  7:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11  8:00         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-06-11  8:18           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11  8:27             ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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