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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] [PATCH] Remove hardcoded xen-platform device initialization
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:50:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51BB1FB4.1030006@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9AAE0902D5BC7E449B7C8E4E778ABCD0039637@LONPEX01CL01.citrite.net>

Il 14/06/2013 06:38, Paul Durrant ha scritto:
>>>> I think the right solution for this is to move towards using
>>>> the normal "-M pc" machine.  libxl can simply use "-M pc
>>>> -machine accel=xen -device xen-platform-pv"; older versions
>>>> that use the xenfv machine will still work.
>>>> 
>>>> And if you do this, you will also get the benefit of
>>>> versioned machine types.
>>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks. I'll have a look at that.
>
> It's a little more complicated than I thought. There are two machine
> types, xenpv and xenfv (i.e. HVM), and they share the accel=xen
> option.

Yes, I was talking of xenfv only.

> Thus QEMU attaches to the VM in the machine code rather than
> the accelerator init code. Using -M pc is therefore not an option,
> unless we perhaps have separate accel options.

You're talking about xen_hvm_init, right?  IIRC there is a hypercall
that lets you know if a domain is PV or FV so you could move large parts
of it to accelerator init.  What's left can be done in "if
(xen_enabled())" (especially those parts that have matching TCG/KVM code
in normal "-M pc" initialization, and have that code currently disabled
for Xen: unifying the two or at least doing an if/else would be nicer).

> Either way this
> doesn't address the backwards compatibility issue. I think QEMU is
> going to need to know which version of the Xen toolstack invoked it
> unless we specify a compatibility matrix.

Yes, "xenfv" needs to stay as legacy for compatibility purposes.  But if
you move the toolchain and QEMU towards using "-M pc" (requiring new
QEMU for new toolchains that do) it would be a very nice cleanup.  It is
also needed if you ever want to support Q35/PCIe.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-14 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-13  9:50 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Remove hardcoded xen-platform device initialization Paul Durrant
2013-06-13 17:33 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-13 17:44   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-06-13 18:02     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-14  9:00       ` Paul Durrant
2013-06-14 10:38         ` Paul Durrant
2013-06-14 13:50           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-06-14 14:11             ` Paul Durrant
2013-06-14 14:57               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-14 15:10                 ` Paul Durrant
2013-06-18 18:56                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-18 19:12                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-18 19:35                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-18 21:38                         ` Andreas Färber
2013-06-19  8:29                           ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-19  8:37                             ` Paul Durrant
2013-06-19  8:41                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19  8:56                               ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-19  9:11                                 ` Paul Durrant
2013-06-19 12:51                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 13:47                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-19  8:27                         ` Paul Durrant
2013-06-19 13:55                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-19 15:09                             ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-19  8:11                     ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-19 13:53                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-19 14:00                         ` Paul Durrant
2013-06-19 16:27                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-20  7:32                             ` Paul Durrant
2013-06-14  8:56     ` Paul Durrant
2013-06-14  8:50   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Durrant
2013-06-14 13:52     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-14 13:57       ` Paul Durrant

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