From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Ping Fan Liu <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 08/13] block: drop bdrv_get_aio_context()
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:03:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51BF2530.2010101@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130617145757.GA31444@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>
Il 17/06/2013 16:57, Stefan Hajnoczi ha scritto:
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:12:00AM -0400, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 14/06/2013 05:48, Stefan Hajnoczi ha scritto:
>>> Associating a BlockDriverState with a single AioContext is not flexible
>>> enough. Once we make BlockDriverState thread-safe, it will be possible
>>> to call bdrv_*() functions from multiple event loops.
>>
>> I'm afraid that this is trading some pain now (converting
>> qemu_bh_new/qemu_set_fd_handler to aio_bh_new/aio_set_fd_handler) for
>> more pain later (having to make BDS thread-safe). There aren't that
>> many (~40) in block layer code.
>>
>> Making BlockDriverState thread-safe is hard, it is much simpler to run
>> all the BlockDriverState code in the AioContext thread itself.
>>
>> There are some things that cannot (basically monitor commands and other
>> places that are currently using bdrv_drain_all) but they can simply take
>> a "big AioContext lock".
>
> I don't like a big AioContext lock that stops the event loop because we
> need to support a M:N device:iothread model where stopping an event loop
> means artificially stopping other devices too.
The event loop would still run via aio_wait(), just in the monitor
thread. However it would stop the ioeventfd, through a mechanism such
as the one you added in this thread or something like that.
> Maybe it's workable though since the only commands that would take an
> AioContext lock are rare and shouldn't impact performance.
Yes.
> I guess then
> it comes down to robustness if a hung NFS mount can affect the entire VM
> instead of just hanging an emulated disk device.
That would only be a hung NFS mount while running something that drains
a BDS, no? It would hang the monitor, but it wouldn't be a regression
compared to what we have now obviously.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-17 15:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-14 9:48 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 00/13] dataplane: use block layer Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 01/13] block: fix bdrv_flush() ordering in bdrv_close() Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 02/13] dataplane: sync virtio.c and vring.c virtqueue state Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 03/13] block: add BlockDevOps->drain_threads_cb() Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 04/13] virtio-blk: implement BlockDevOps->drain_threads_cb() Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 14:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 05/13] exec: do not use qemu/tls.h Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 06/13] qemu-thread: add TLS wrappers Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-20 7:26 ` Fam Zheng
2013-06-20 8:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-20 12:54 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 07/13] block: add thread_aio_context TLS variable Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 08/13] block: drop bdrv_get_aio_context() Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 14:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-17 14:57 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-17 15:03 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-06-18 9:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 09/13] main-loop: use thread-local AioContext Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 10/13] block: disable I/O throttling outside main loop Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 11/13] dataplane: use block layer for I/O Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 12/13] dataplane: drop ioq Linux AIO request queue Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-14 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 13/13] block: drop raw_get_aio_fd() Stefan Hajnoczi
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