From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Cc: Liu Ping Fan <qemulist@gmail.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/2] add a header file for atomic operations
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:04:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51C076ED.8080501@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51C070E2.4050207@twiddle.net>
Il 18/06/2013 16:38, Richard Henderson ha scritto:
>>>> +#ifndef atomic_read
>>>> +#define atomic_read(ptr) (*(__typeof__(*ptr) *volatile) (ptr))
>>>> #endif
>>>>
>>>> +#ifndef atomic_set
>>>> +#define atomic_set(ptr, i) ((*(__typeof__(*ptr) *volatile) (ptr)) = (i))
>>>> +#endif
>>>
>>> Use
>>>
>>> __atomic_load(..., __ATOMIC_RELAXED)
>>> __atomic_store(..., __ATOMIC_RELAXED)
>>>
>>> ?
>>
>> Same here, I didn't want proliferation of #ifdefs beyond what is actually required.
>
> Not knowing exactly where these might be used within the code base, I'd be
> worried about someone applying them to a uint64_t, somewhere a 32-bit host
> might see it. At which point the above is going to be silently wrong, loaded
> with two 32-bit pieces.
>
> Given that we're not requiring gcc 4.8, and cannot guarantee use of
> __atomic_load, perhaps we ought to do something like
>
> #define atomic_read(ptr) \
> ({ if (sizeof(*(ptr)) > sizeof(ptr)) invalid_atomic_read(); \
> *(__typeof__(*ptr) *volatile) (ptr)); })
>
> which should generate a link error when reading a size we can't guarantee will
> Just Work.
Good idea.
>> The FAQ also has an "important note", however:
>>
>> Important Note: Note that it is important for both threads to access
>> the same volatile variable in order to properly set up the happens-before
>> relationship. It is not the case that everything visible to thread A
>> when it writes volatile field f becomes visible to thread B after it
>> reads volatile field g. The release and acquire have to "match" (i.e.,
>> be performed on the same volatile field) to have the right semantics.
>>
>> Is this final "important note" the difference between ACQ_REL and SEQ_CST?
>
> Yes, exactly.
I still have some confusion, so I sent another follow-up with the exact
differences in the generated code. But in any case, I will augment the
documentation with the text from the FAQ, seems safe.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-18 15:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-16 11:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] make AioContext's bh re-entrant Liu Ping Fan
2013-06-16 11:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/2] add a header file for atomic operations Liu Ping Fan
2013-06-17 18:57 ` Richard Henderson
2013-06-18 8:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-18 11:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-18 14:38 ` Richard Henderson
2013-06-18 15:04 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-06-18 13:24 ` [Qemu-devel] Java volatile vs. C11 seq_cst (was Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] add a header file for atomic operations) Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-18 14:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-18 15:29 ` Peter Sewell
2013-06-18 15:37 ` Torvald Riegel
2013-06-19 1:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-19 7:11 ` Torvald Riegel
2013-06-20 15:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-18 16:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-18 16:38 ` Torvald Riegel
2013-06-19 1:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-19 9:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 13:15 ` Torvald Riegel
2013-06-19 15:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 20:25 ` Torvald Riegel
2013-06-20 7:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-22 10:55 ` Torvald Riegel
2013-06-18 15:26 ` Torvald Riegel
2013-06-18 17:38 ` Andrew Haley
2013-06-19 9:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 15:36 ` Andrew Haley
2013-06-16 11:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/2] QEMUBH: make AioContext's bh re-entrant Liu Ping Fan
2013-06-17 15:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-17 16:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-18 2:19 ` liu ping fan
2013-06-18 9:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-18 15:14 ` mdroth
2013-06-18 16:19 ` mdroth
2013-06-18 19:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-18 22:26 ` mdroth
2013-06-19 9:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-20 9:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-17 7:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-18 2:40 ` liu ping fan
2013-06-18 8:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
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