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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: qemu-trivial@nongnu.org, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] tls.h: Enable TLS on FreeBSD
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:18:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51C93639.6000907@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9e212aEL2O-oqKmEMO-cj9o+x_RHTXryyDVg73UhmV3w@mail.gmail.com>

Il 24/06/2013 23:30, Peter Maydell ha scritto:
> On 24 June 2013 22:15, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Il 24/06/2013 21:21, Ed Maste ha scritto:
>>> Signed-off-by: Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>
>>> ---
>>> I have had this in a local tree for some time, and it is needed by the
>>> BSD-user work that is now being proposed.
>>
>> At this time, qemu/tls.h is really just for cpu_single_env, so I think
>> this patch should be applied together with the bsd-user patches that
>> need it.
> 
> This patch has arrived because I suggested splitting it out from
> those ;-) System mode qemu is multi-threaded, so moving more host
> OSes into the fold of "these variables behave like the linux host
> which is where the bulk of testing happens" sounds like a good idea
> to me.

Ah. :)

>>> As an aside, an abstraction was recently proposed for Open vSwtich that
>>> can use any of _Thread_local, __thread, or pthread_getspecific() which
>>> may make a convenient reference for someone wishing to implement one of
>>> the TODOs: http://openvswitch.org/pipermail/dev/2013-June/028665.html
>>
>> I and Stefan Hajnoczi have almost the same idea implemented in QEMU
>> (except that get_foo() returns a pointer to the variable).  But
>> pthread_get/setspecific would be too slow for cpu_single_env, so we're
>> just switching to __thread for cpu_single_env (for Linux in our patches,
>> but you can add FreeBSD too once it's needed).
> 
> I would really like cpu_single_env (and the other thread variables)
> to have consistent semantics everywhere (which means "always thread
> local"), even if that means "sometimes suboptimal performance".
> Reasoning about a variable that might or might not be per-thread
> is just painful. Alternatively, we could just drop support for any
> host OS that doesn't provide reasonably efficient per-thread data.

That is basically only OpenBSD.  If we get reasonable support for
FreeBSD, I'm perfectly fine with dropping OpenBSD.  But so far OpenBSD
was the only officially supported variant.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-25  6:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-24 19:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] tls.h: Enable TLS on FreeBSD Ed Maste
2013-06-24 21:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-24 21:30   ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-25  6:18     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-06-25 10:56   ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-25 10:58     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 10:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-trivial] " Michael Tokarev
2013-06-28 12:54   ` Ed Maste
2013-06-28 13:03     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 13:05       ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-28 14:08         ` Ed Maste
2013-06-28 14:47         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 14:55           ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-28 15:11             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 15:35               ` Ed Maste
2013-06-28 15:37                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01  8:03                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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