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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Tomoki Sekiyama <tomoki.sekiyama@hds.com>
Cc: "libaiqing@huawei.com" <libaiqing@huawei.com>,
	"mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"stefanha@gmail.com" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"lcapitulino@redhat.com" <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	"vrozenfe@redhat.com" <vrozenfe@redhat.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Seiji Aguchi <seiji.aguchi@hds.com>,
	"areis@redhat.com" <areis@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 06/10] qemu-ga: Add Windows VSS provider to quiesce applications on fsfreeze
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:52:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51C9F4F7.9090008@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CDEF3953.2E1E%Tomoki.Sekiyama@hds.com>

On 06/25/13 20:23, Tomoki Sekiyama wrote:
> On 6/25/13 12:03 , "Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:

>>> +ifeq ($(CONFIG_QGA_VSS),y)
>>> +QEMU_CFLAGS += -DHAS_VSS_SDK
>>
>> Isn't this superfluous? First, I can find no other reference to
>> HAS_VSS_SDK in the series, second, CONFIG_QGA_VSS would be available
>> directly as a macro to source files.
> 
> It is referenced in e.g. qga/commands-win32.c in patch 8/10.

Ah sorry. "ack" (that I sometimes use for recursive grepping, outside of
git clones) didn't return any hits in the directory where I had saved
your patch emails (for git-am), that's why I said "no references in the
series".

Perhaps "ack" ignored the .eml files due to their CRLF line endings...
It did find the references with option "--all".

(Of course I should have noticed something was fishy, since "ack" didn't
find the very occurrence I was questioning! :))

> But as you say, I will omit this, by the second reason.

OK, thanks.

>> Will some VSS service load the provider DLL independently of
>> qemu-ga.exe?
> 
> Yes, VSS provider DLL is registered to VSS on installation of qemu-ga
> service (using .TLB), and loaded into VSS service component when
> snapshot is started.
> 
>> If so, (a) how will they communicate
> 
> Using COM interface.

[...]

>> ... I'll try to continue here. I've peaked forward a little bit, and
>> CQGAVssProvider::CommitSnapshots() seems to be the central method. It
>> kicks the "frozen" event, then blocks until the "thaw" event is kicked
>> back. I wonder how those will translate to QMP communication with
>> libvirt.
> 
> CommitSnapshots() is called by VSS, when the requestor of qemu-ga
> (introduced in next patch) initiates snapshot receiving
> "guest-fsfreeze-freeze" command.
> "frozen" event is used to tell qemu-ga.exe that the fs is frozen,
> then qemu-ga.exe will tell libvirt to "guest-fsfreeze-freeze" is done.
> 
> "thaw" event is kicked by qemnu-ga.exe when it receives
> "guest-fsfreeze-thaw" command. The command is finished when VSS notify
> qeum-ga.exe requestor that VSS snapshot process is completed.

Very interesting. I'm curious about the requestor in the next patch.

Based on the VSS description in MSDN, I thought the requestor would make
some kind of blocking call (like a normal function call) into VSS that
could not return until the full process was done (ie. filesystems were
re-thawed).

This likely isn't the case, as CommitSnapshots() appears to signal
(wake) qemu-ga.exe asynchronously -- the requestor (qemu-ga) and the
provider (the DLL in the VSS component) seem to run in parallel.

The more I think I understand of your design the more I like it.

I'll attempt to continue the review tomorrow.

Thanks!
Laszlo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-25 20:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-06 15:06 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/10] qemu-ga: fsfreeze on Windows using VSS Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 01/10] configure: Support configuring c++ compiler Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-18 10:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-25  8:15   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 02/10] Add c++ keywords to QAPI helper script Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25  8:16   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 03/10] checkpatch.pl: check .cpp files Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25  8:17   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 04/10] Add a script to extract VSS SDK headers on POSIX system Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25  8:30   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-25 15:01   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-25 15:01     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-26 10:52       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 05/10] qemu-ga: Add configure options to specify path to Windows/VSS SDK Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25 11:16   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-28 10:43     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-06-28 10:54       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 11:01         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-06-28 11:18           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 11:30             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-06-28 12:18               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 11:05       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 06/10] qemu-ga: Add Windows VSS provider to quiesce applications on fsfreeze Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25 16:03   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-25 16:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-25 18:23     ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25 18:59       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-25 19:28         ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25 19:52       ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2013-06-26 14:32     ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-26 21:27       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-26 22:09       ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-27 15:01       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-27 22:25         ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-28  7:05           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 10:40             ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-28 10:40               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 17:18                 ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-28 10:44           ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-25 21:15   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-25 22:31     ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-26  5:59       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-26 14:13         ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-30 13:16       ` Gal Hammer
2013-07-01 18:57         ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-07-02 12:36           ` Gal Hammer
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 07/10] qemu-ga: Add Windows VSS requester to quiesce applications and filesystems Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-28 18:01   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-28 18:34     ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-30  1:21     ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-07-01  8:31       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 08/10] qemu-ga: call Windows VSS requester in fsfreeze command handler Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-07-01 13:29   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-07-01 17:48     ` Eric Blake
2013-07-01 17:59     ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-07-02  6:36       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-07-02 14:09         ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-07-02 14:44           ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-07-02 15:16             ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-07-02 15:28               ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-07-02 14:58         ` Michael Roth
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 09/10] qemu-ga: install Windows VSS provider on `qemu-ga -s install' Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-07-01 14:50   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-07-01 17:59     ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-06 15:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 10/10] QMP/qemu-ga-client: make timeout longer for guest-fsfreeze-freeze command Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-18 10:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01 15:02   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-10  9:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/10] qemu-ga: fsfreeze on Windows using VSS Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-24 19:30 ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-24 21:13   ` Laszlo Ersek

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