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From: Wenchao Xia <xiawenc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Maurer <dietmar@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] qemu-img: add option -d in convert
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:30:04 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51CC304C.80706@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130627090139.GC14351@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>

于 2013-6-27 17:01, Stefan Hajnoczi 写道:
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 07:14:19PM +0800, Wenchao Xia wrote:
>> 于 2013-6-25 17:13, Stefan Hajnoczi 写道:
>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 04:59:17PM +0800, Wenchao Xia wrote:
>>>
>>> If I understand correctly, you have a backing chain with internal
>>> snapshots:
>>>
>>>> imageA(sn0)->imageB(sn0,sn1)->imageC(sn0)
>>>
>>> And you want to convert this to a chain of external snapshots:
>>>
>>    What it looks like is convert into external snapshots, actually
>> requirement is get delta data from internal snapshot, external snapshots
>> have delta data by nature so it is a way to orginize it. This patch
>> will help get that delta data.
>
> Copying all the data out into external files in order to get
> is_allocated information seems very inefficient.
>
> We've discussed dirty block tracking APIs on the list several times.
> This seems related.
>
> Maybe it's time to tackle this properly for both external and internal
> snapshots.
>
> The reason why a dirty block tracking API is also helpful is that not
> all tools want to learn how to open different image file formats.  (Even
> with libqblock.)
>
> The drity block tracking API gives them information which they can use
> together with a single interface like NBD or a libvirt block pread-style
> interface to read out dirty blocks.
   Nice to have the dirty block tracking API. As the discuss before, it
may be implemented as best effort which kept in memory, and I think it
is right because dirty map already exist in some block format, do that
in block seems a duplicated implemention.
   If that API is online, the approach in this patch, would be the
backed way to get delta data, when qemu is not shutdown gracefully.
What I can think is later additional parameter: -dirty_out file,
which will rebuild the dirty info with -d file_compare.
   For internal snapshot, still I need an easy way to get delta data
of historic ones which may have no dirty block tracking info.


>
> BTW we already have qemu-io -c map which prints out allocation
> information for an image file.  If that command is extended to support
> -s then you can get your info easily.
   Do you mean use it like:
   1 call qemu-io file -c map -s sn0
   2 call qemu-io file -c map -s sn1
   3 for (offset = 0; offset < len; offset +=512) {
         if (allocated on sn0) {
              call qemu-io file read -s sn0, into buf0
         }
         if (allocated on sn1) {
              call qemu-io file read -s sn1, into buf1
         }
         if strcmp(buf0, buf1) {
              write down the delta
         }
     }
?
   I think it is workable and flex, the bottle neck is the string
parsing of qemu-io. For delta data info retrieving purpose, qemu-img
approach would faster.

>
> Stefan
>


-- 
Best Regards

Wenchao Xia

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-27 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-20  8:59 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] qemu-img: add option -d in convert Wenchao Xia
2013-06-25  9:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-25 11:14   ` Wenchao Xia
2013-06-27  9:01     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-27 12:30       ` Wenchao Xia [this message]
2013-07-02  8:47         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-27 12:44       ` Wenchao Xia

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