From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
"Todd T. Fries" <todd@fries.net>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] display: stop using DT_NOGRAPHIC, use DT_NONE
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:05:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51CD7C07.40608@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51CD7899.1090909@msgid.tls.msk.ru>
Am 28.06.2013 13:50, schrieb Michael Tokarev:
> 28.06.2013 15:45, Andreas Färber пишет:
>> Am 28.06.2013 13:29, schrieb Michael Tokarev:
>>> 28.06.2013 15:24, Peter Maydell wrote:
> []
>>>> ...in particular I don't think "-display none" should
>>>> mean "don't allow ctrl-c" (though -nographic should
>>>> continue to have that effect), and this patch currently
>>>> introduces that behaviour change.
>>>
>>> As Anthony said before, -nographic is legacy. So there should
>>> be some more modern way to control this. That's exactly the
>>> change which I don't like myself.
>>
>>> But "don't allow ctrl-c"
>>> which is currently bound to -nographic is equally wrong.
>>
>> What's wrong about that? Isn't Ctrl+C passed through to the guest in
>> -nographic mode? I don't see how any other mode inclusing daemonize
>> would need that.
>
> Um. With either -nographic or -display none, there's no "display"
> per se, and it is the "display" who relays keypresses and such into
> guest. Without display, the guest becomes headless completely, not
> only it does not have a monitor of a video card, but also does not
> have keyboard or mouse or other similar stuff. Or it may have these,
> but you can't "touch" neither keyboard nor mouse because you don't
> "see" them without a display. Fun thing but here we go.
BTW just try it out using the following to see for yourself:
$ qemu-system-ppc -nographic
should get you to an interactive OpenBIOS prompt. Same for sparc.
This involves communicating to firmware that we are in -nographic mode,
which then redirects its output to serial rather then VGA (think of
sgabios in x86 terms).
Andreas
>
> This ctrl+c handling is only about when you explicitly redirected
> some other char device to guest, such as serial port. Which don't
> have much to do with display I think, hence I don't understand the
> logic here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> /mjt
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-28 12:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-19 12:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] display: stop using DT_NOGRAPHIC, use DT_NONE Michael Tokarev
2013-06-28 10:38 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-28 11:24 ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-28 11:29 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-28 11:34 ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-28 11:43 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-28 11:50 ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-28 12:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 11:45 ` Andreas Färber
2013-06-28 11:50 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-28 11:55 ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-28 12:05 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-28 12:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 12:09 ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-28 11:56 ` Andreas Färber
2013-06-28 12:05 ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2013-06-28 12:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-09 18:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-09 19:00 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-09 20:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-09 21:18 ` Peter Maydell
2013-07-09 21:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-09 21:36 ` Peter Maydell
2013-07-09 22:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-16 11:10 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-10 4:45 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-10 5:08 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-16 11:35 ` Peter Maydell
2013-07-10 4:18 ` Michael Tokarev
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