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From: "Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, quintela@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	owasserm@redhat.com, abali@us.ibm.com, mrhines@us.ibm.com,
	gokul@us.ibm.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, chegu_vinod@hp.com,
	knoel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] rdma: core logic
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:22:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51CD9C31.5040200@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9LLvFyNUkc7w==zCffDqg=qxVbpJ3ZVr9-Fk89oOsV5A@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/28/2013 10:07 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 28 June 2013 15:00, Michael R. Hines <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>> On 06/28/2013 09:28 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>>> Is endianess for the data a big issue when you are assume the migration
>>>> is happening across identical CPU architectures?
>>> Well:
>>>    * is that a reasonable assumption? (why?)
>>
>> I would yes, because we're dealing raw guest RAM.
>> Migration of memory would not work across a different architecture
>> (particularly page tables - which would need to be canonicalized
>> and de-canonicalized).
> Raw guest RAM is fine, because the VM at the destination
> will (by definition) be running a guest of the same endianness.
> However it looks like in this code you have host (QEMU)
> code looking into the guest RAM, and the guest and host
> might not have the same endianness. (The easy way for them
> to be different is if you're using TCG rather than KVM;
> alternatively you might be running a big-endian VM inside KVM
> with a little-endian QEMU controlling it, if your architecture
> supports that.)

Alright, I see. I guess the moral of the story is that I should
not make any architecture assumptions about *any* part
of QEMU, then.

I'll add the remaining byte-swap routines for safety to the
patch before I sent out the next patch series.

>>>    * if you try this on some setup where it's not true, do we
>>>      fail helpfully or obscurely?
>> Shouldn't a check like that occur before the migration actually begins?
>> Is this specific to RDMA?
> Normal migration works fine for TCG because it doesn't depend on
> the endianness of the host vs the guest -- everything on the
> wire is in big-endian format and we byteswap field values as
> we marshall them. Guest RAM itself is just sent as a bag of bytes
> (conceptually speaking, anyway).

Understood.

- Michael

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-28 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-27 22:44 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] rdma: core logic and unpin support mrhines
2013-06-27 22:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] rdma: update documentation to reflect new " mrhines
2013-06-27 23:09   ` Eric Blake
2013-06-28 13:17     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-06-27 22:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] rdma: introduce ram_handle_compressed() mrhines
2013-06-27 22:56   ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-28  7:17     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-27 22:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] rdma: core logic mrhines
2013-06-27 23:16   ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-28 13:23     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-06-28 13:28       ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-28 14:00         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-06-28 14:07           ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-28 14:22             ` Michael R. Hines [this message]
2013-06-28  7:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 14:11     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-06-27 22:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] rdma: allow state transitions between other states besides ACTIVE mrhines
2013-06-27 23:10   ` Eric Blake
2013-06-28  7:34     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-27 22:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] rdma: introduce MIG_STATE_NONE and change MIG_STATE_SETUP state transition mrhines
2013-06-27 22:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] rdma: account for the time spent in MIG_STATE_SETUP through QMP mrhines

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