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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
Cc: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] per-object libraries
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 17:20:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51D19E4A.4050706@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51D19AFA.2090707@msgid.tls.msk.ru>

Il 01/07/2013 17:06, Michael Tokarev ha scritto:
> So instead of this, we may have in the top-level Makefile:
> 
>   obj-i386-y += hw/i386/msi.o hw/i386/irq.o hw/i386/kvm.o
> 
> Or, if you prefer programmatic expansion,
> 
>   list-i386-y += msi.o irq.o kvm.o
>   obj-i386-y += $(addprefix hw/i386/, $(list-i386-y))

If I have to choose my poison, I prefer the directory multiple times.
But both seem worse than what we have now?

> So the difference is just the addition of the pathnames,
> not the logic or ifdeffery.

Even after you factor in user-level vs. softmmu, tools, KVM vs. Xen vs.
TCG, and all that?

>> Conflicts in a small file are also way easier to solve, even if there
>> are more conflicting files.
> 
> Conflicts?  Which conflicts?  You mean merge conflicts?
> If yes, it does not really matter be it small file or large
> file.

When diff3 goes haywire because you're merging features back to a
4-year-old version, it matters a lot.

> (Again, the "half" here refers to the fact that some variables
> gets prefixed by the subdir automatically while some doesn't).

Which *-obj-y variables do not get prefixed?

> So before sending patches, can we at least agree (or not) that
> specifying paths explicitly (either using dir/obj.o or by calling
> addprefix) is not THAT bad or it should be avoided entirely?

addprefix is bad.  Specifying paths explicitly is not bad _per se_, but
if a directory is used to group related code, I think the Makefile
should also be separated.  For example in the future we may have Kconfig
files in hw/*, and of these three possibilities, (1) and (2) would be
worse than (3):

1) use a single huge Kconfig file for all devices, use a single
Makefile.objs;

2) split Kconfig, keep a single Makefile.objs file;

3) split both the Kconfig and the Makefile.objs files.

> (I dislike the recursive sub-make approach because when you have
> everything in one make it is much easier to see all dependencies
> and plan the work, instead of running a ton of submakes first,
> each checking if its own subdir is up to date).

I agree.  And again QEMU is doing half-this half-that, but I don't see
any alternative.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-01 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-18 17:34 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] per-object libraries Michael Tokarev
2013-06-18 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/4] build-sys: strip leading ./ from $(obj) Michael Tokarev
2013-06-18 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/4] build-sys: allow object-specific libraries to be used to link executables Michael Tokarev
2013-06-18 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/4] build-sys: allow per-object foo.cflags variables Michael Tokarev
2013-06-18 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/4] build-sys: move -lcurl out of libs and specify it for curl.o Michael Tokarev
2013-06-19  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] per-object libraries Michael Tokarev
2013-06-19 14:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-19 14:58   ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-19 16:46   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 16:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 18:18   ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-19 18:52     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 19:31       ` Richard Henderson
     [not found]         ` <51C2D03E.2030505@redhat.com>
2013-06-20 10:06           ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-20 12:39             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-20 12:50               ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-20 17:09           ` Richard Henderson
2013-06-19 20:00       ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-20 10:09         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-30 15:23   ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 10:08     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01 10:10       ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 10:18         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-30 15:28 ` Andreas Färber
2013-06-30 15:36   ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-30 15:51     ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-30 16:49       ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01  8:00         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-30 15:56     ` Andreas Färber
2013-07-01 13:39     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01 14:43       ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 14:46         ` Andreas Färber
2013-07-01 14:52           ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 14:53           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01 15:06             ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 15:20               ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-07-01 15:52                 ` Michael Tokarev

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