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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: libaiqing@huawei.com, mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	stefanha@gmail.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	lcapitulino@redhat.com, vrozenfe@redhat.com,
	Tomoki Sekiyama <tomoki.sekiyama@hds.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, seiji.aguchi@hds.com, areis@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 08/10] qemu-ga: call Windows VSS requester in fsfreeze command handler
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 11:48:25 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51D1C0E9.3080108@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51D18426.5010909@redhat.com>

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On 07/01/2013 07:29 AM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> some comments below
> 
> On 06/06/13 17:06, Tomoki Sekiyama wrote:
>> Support guest-fsfreeze-freeze and guest-fsfreeze-thaw commands for Windows
>> guests. When fsfreeze command is issued, it calls the VSS requester to
>> freeze filesystems and applications. On thaw command, it again tells the VSS
>> requester to thaw them.
>>

>>  int64_t qmp_guest_fsfreeze_thaw(Error **err)
>>  {
>> +    int i;
>> +
>> +    if (!vss_initialized()) {
>> +        error_set(err, QERR_UNSUPPORTED);
>> +        return 0;
>> +    }
>> +
>> +    qga_vss_fsfreeze_thaw(&i, err);
> 
> I wonder how libvirt interprets a failure to thaw -- does it expect
> filesystems to remain frozen? (CC'ing Eric.)

On failure to thaw, libvirt marks the virDomainSnapshotCreateXML() API
call as failed, and logs the failure returned from the guest agent; but
beyond that, there really isn't anything further that libvirt can
attempt.  Guest freeze/thaw is a best-effort attempt, and we don't
really have any clean way to recover from a non-cooperative guest (ie.
it's no different from a Linux guest managing to kill off the guest
agent daemon in the guest at the wrong time).  In short, a failed
snapshot request has no guarantees on whether the guest is frozen or
thawed, and libvirt currently has no additional support to try a thaw in
isolation (although there is an intentionally unsupported 'virsh
qemu-agent-command' for attempting recovery manually).

> ... This patch made me look at ga_command_state_cleanup_all().
> Apparently the POSIX flavor thaws filesystems if qemu-ga exits before a
> thaw command over QMP; see guest_fsfreeze_cleanup() and
> ga_command_state_init(). Do you think something similar would be useful
> for the Windows flavor as well?

I agree that it is better to try and clean up a thaw on any error case
(including the error of qemu-ga exiting without seeing a QMP thaw
request), if only to minimize the chance of failure leaving the system
wedged with no chance of further recovery attempts.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-01 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-06 15:06 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/10] qemu-ga: fsfreeze on Windows using VSS Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 01/10] configure: Support configuring c++ compiler Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-18 10:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-25  8:15   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 02/10] Add c++ keywords to QAPI helper script Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25  8:16   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 03/10] checkpatch.pl: check .cpp files Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25  8:17   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 04/10] Add a script to extract VSS SDK headers on POSIX system Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25  8:30   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-25 15:01   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-25 15:01     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-26 10:52       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 05/10] qemu-ga: Add configure options to specify path to Windows/VSS SDK Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25 11:16   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-28 10:43     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-06-28 10:54       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 11:01         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-06-28 11:18           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 11:30             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-06-28 12:18               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 11:05       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 06/10] qemu-ga: Add Windows VSS provider to quiesce applications on fsfreeze Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25 16:03   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-25 16:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-25 18:23     ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25 18:59       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-25 19:28         ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-25 19:52       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-26 14:32     ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-26 21:27       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-26 22:09       ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-27 15:01       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-27 22:25         ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-28  7:05           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 10:40             ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-28 10:40               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-28 17:18                 ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-28 10:44           ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-25 21:15   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-25 22:31     ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-26  5:59       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-26 14:13         ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-30 13:16       ` Gal Hammer
2013-07-01 18:57         ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-07-02 12:36           ` Gal Hammer
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 07/10] qemu-ga: Add Windows VSS requester to quiesce applications and filesystems Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-28 18:01   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-28 18:34     ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-30  1:21     ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-07-01  8:31       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 08/10] qemu-ga: call Windows VSS requester in fsfreeze command handler Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-07-01 13:29   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-07-01 17:48     ` Eric Blake [this message]
2013-07-01 17:59     ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-07-02  6:36       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-07-02 14:09         ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-07-02 14:44           ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-07-02 15:16             ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-07-02 15:28               ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-07-02 14:58         ` Michael Roth
2013-06-06 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 09/10] qemu-ga: install Windows VSS provider on `qemu-ga -s install' Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-07-01 14:50   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-07-01 17:59     ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-06 15:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 10/10] QMP/qemu-ga-client: make timeout longer for guest-fsfreeze-freeze command Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-18 10:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01 15:02   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-10  9:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/10] qemu-ga: fsfreeze on Windows using VSS Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-24 19:30 ` Tomoki Sekiyama
2013-06-24 21:13   ` Laszlo Ersek

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