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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com,
	qiaonuohan@cn.fujitsu.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	Amos Kong <akong@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] full introspection support for QMP
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 10:44:10 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51D3035A.1060605@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130702153945.GZ2524@redhat.com>

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On 07/02/2013 09:39 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>>> Maybe I'm being too meta here, but why not just return qapi-schema.json
>>> as a string and call it as day?
>>
>> Because qapi-schema.json requires further parsing.  For example, how is
>> a client supposed to know that '*foo':'int' means that there is an
>> argument named 'foo' but it is optional?  The rule of thumb with QMP is
>> that if you have to post-process JSON output, then the JSON was not
>> designed correctly.
> 
> Arguably that rule of thumb would apply equally to the QEMU
> build scripts which already parse qapi-schema.json. It could
> be possible to normalize qapi-schema.json somewhat to remove
> this 2-stage parsing if we went down this route.

Indeed, I wouldn't mind a one-time pass over qapi-schema.json to make it
follow a more rigid format if that made it easier to use it as-is with
less post-processing.  It won't be very nice to backport such a
conversion, but I don't know how much distros are planning on
backporting introspection in the first place.

> 
> I'm finding it hard to clearly see what the 2 different proposed
> data formats look like against each other. Can someone give some
> examples, showing the data that would need to be parsed in each
> format, for a couple of examples.

My proposal (but not quite what was implemented in _this_ version of
Amos' patch) has been:

qapi-schema.json:

{ 'command': 'add_client',
  'data': { 'protocol': 'str', 'fdname': 'str', '*skipauth': 'bool',
            '*tls': 'bool' } }

My proposal:


=> { "execute": "query-qmp-schema",
     "arguments": { "name": "add_client" } }
<= { "return": [
     { "name": "add_client",
       "type": "command",
       "data": [
         { "name": "protocol",
           "type": "str" },
         { "name": "fdname",
           "type": "str" },
         { "name": "skipauth",
           "type": "bool",
           "optional": true },
         { "name": "tls",
           "type": "bool",
           "optional": true }
       ] } ] }

Note that one other benefit of breaking out "optional" into its own dict
member: we are free to expand the dict to add new members, such as a
'*default':'str' member (present when "optional":true, and with the
stringized value of the default value used if "name" is not present).
Of course, to be able to express a default value, we already have to
modify the syntax stored in qapi-schema.json in the first place, which
takes us back to the argument of a one-time conversion of the .json file
to actually use a more formal typing system in the first place.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-02 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19 12:24 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] full introspection support for QMP Amos Kong
2013-06-19 12:49 ` Amos Kong
2013-06-20 10:16   ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 16:39   ` Eric Blake
2013-06-21  3:20 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-07-02  8:37   ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 14:20     ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-07-16 10:52       ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 14:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-02 15:28   ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 15:39     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-07-02 16:44       ` Eric Blake [this message]
2013-07-02 17:01         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-02 17:06           ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 18:27             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-04  3:54               ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 18:21         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-02 20:00           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-02 20:08             ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 20:58             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-03  5:52               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-03 12:54                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-03 14:45                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-03 16:06                     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-04  7:53                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-11 13:37                   ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 17:06     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-02 17:11       ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 18:28         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-03 15:08       ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-03 15:59         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-04  7:42           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-04  7:55           ` Paolo Bonzini

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