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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: alex@alex.org.uk, Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] qemu-timer: make QEMUTimer functions thread-safe
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:45:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51E3EEDA.4080501@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51D7079A.2000907@siemens.com>

Il 05/07/2013 19:51, Jan Kiszka ha scritto:
> On 2013-07-05 14:39, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> This series makes the following functions thread-safe:
>>
>>   qemu_mod_timer_ns()
>>   qemu_mod_timer()
>>   qemu_del_timer()
>>   qemu_timer_pending()
>>
>> The following were already thread-safe:
>>
>>   qemu_free_timer()
>>   qemu_new_timer()
>>   qemu_timer_expired()
>>
>> Now it is possible to use QEMUTimer outside the QEMU global mutex.  Timer
>> callbacks are still invoked from the main loop.  If a thread wishes to run
>> timer callbacks it must use a thread-safe QEMUBH (which Ping Fan Liu is working
>> on).
> 
> What do you mean with this? We need main-loop independent timers for any
> task that depends on timely alarm delivery. Do your patches keep this in
> mind as well?

These are orthogonal issues.  Stefan's usecase does not need timely
delivery.

>> Note that host_clock is not thread-safe because it keeps state and invokes
>> reset notifiers.  Device emulation threads mostly care about vm_clock, so this
>> is not a problem.
> 
> I suppose you know that vm_clock cannot be read outside BQL yet due to
> timers_state and, under TCG, icount. Any ideas regarding this already? I
> didn't have to solve that problem so far as I only need CLOCK_REALTIME
> outside BQL.

I was thinking of a seqlock.  It should be quite cheap, since there
would be hardly any contention.

No ideas about host_clock's notifiers.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-15 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-05 12:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] qemu-timer: make QEMUTimer functions thread-safe Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-05 12:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] qemu-timer: drop outdated signal safety comments Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-05 17:52   ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-05 12:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] qemu-timer: add QEMUClock->active_timers list lock Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-05 13:01   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-05 12:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] qemu-timer: add qemu_alarm_timer->timer_modified_lock Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-05 17:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] qemu-timer: make QEMUTimer functions thread-safe Jan Kiszka
2013-07-15 12:45   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-07-15 12:57     ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-15 13:38       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18  4:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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